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Solo to crew...thinking about solo again???

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by K.Carothers, May 24, 2006.

  1. K.Carothers

    K.Carothers LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,124

    This year, I went from solo to having a crew.


    1) Being able to spend time with my son when he broke his arm
    2) Landscape work is a lot easier on body


    1) Having to constantly get work to keep everyone working full time
    2) More maintenance on equipment
    3) Taxes,taxes and more taxes
    4) Workman's comp insurance
    5) A lot more paper work

    Who is in the same position?

    Is it worth it to have a crew or go back to the solo gig where everything was controlled?
  2. Albemarle Lawn

    Albemarle Lawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,544

    If you have mediocre customers and crew, fire the crew and keep the best customers. Go solo.

    If you have lots of great customers, staff a good crew to fulfill.

    Somewhere in between? Keep your best helper and ditch the worst. Also ditch the unprofitable or PIA customers.
  3. Dashunde

    Dashunde LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 628

    I've been wondering the same thing.

    I tend to agree with Albemarle.
  4. zero_turn_mowers

    zero_turn_mowers LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 410

    Your right being Solo has great advantages, like Friday I am taking off to leave town for a long weekend due to the holidays, I have 3 guys that I will have to make a schedule out, I am the kind if they are working I like to be within minutes of where they are.

  5. zim bob the landscaper

    zim bob the landscaper LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,707

    if that happens i will hire somebody then i will make there paycheck/everything else.
  6. Surf'n'Turf

    Surf'n'Turf LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 326

    You are at the crossroads....either expand or contract. Ask yourself this: do you want to enslave yourself to a life of drudgery, put limits on how far you can grow and have limited quality time for yourself and family or do you have what it takes to impliment a plan and strategy with systems in place to make your business work for you? Simple, yes....easy, no.
  7. HighGrass

    HighGrass LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Z5 MA
    Posts: 1,237

    I love being solo. I work when I want and where I want.

    The funny thing is, I was watching this crew the other day. 3 guys doing one lawn. One WB, One ZTR and one guy trimming. What a dog and pony show. I finished my lawn next to thiers in about the same time. Funny thing was, just as I was living, their boss showed up and boy did they step up the pace.
  8. GrassBustersLawn

    GrassBustersLawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 983

    FIRE YOUR WORST WORKER in front of the other workers. I guarantee their work output will increase enough to offset the loss of the worst worker.

  9. Jpocket

    Jpocket LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,278

    While I agree the solo thing is great, and you willl have less if any cash flow problems, I still feel the only way to Grow and be a REAL business is to have ppl. doing work for you. I feel that as a solo you are just self -employed.

    As a solo YOU ARE the business, if you stand back and look at it it's just equipment.
  10. HOOLIE

    HOOLIE LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,981

    Learning the skill of managing employees is the key to growth. You can be outstanding out in the field and with the business side of things, but if you can't manage other people you'll have difficulty.

    I'll never go back to solo...it was fun for awhile but the truth is, it's a grind and not something I'd want to be doing for the next 20-30 years :dizzy:

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