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some walkbehind advice/info, please

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by tranum, Jan 16, 2002.

  1. tranum

    tranum LawnSite Member
    Posts: 86

    have a new commercial property that i mowed today for the 1st time. it has some pretty serious hills, slopes, embankments or however you choose to describe.
    i need to know about w/b vs. ZTR performance on hillsides. i've never owned or operated a w/b so i have no experience to compare. some of the hills i could keep the Z on but the fear factor was about to overtake me. after looking at some of the other hills, i didn't even try.
    my question is, will a w/b operate (safely) on a steeper hill than a Z? i'm not talking about a vertical wall, but if a Z is on a slope and is just starting to loose it's grip, do you think a w/b would stick?
    i kinda sorta added the cost of a w/b in my bid, so i don't mind purchasing if it will do the job.
    P.S. demoing on this prop is probably out of the question. it's 80 miles to the nearest dealer & i have not found one that would bring a machine that far for a demo.
    sorry about the long post. thanks
     
  2. Green Care

    Green Care LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 530

    IF your are afraid or if the hill is real steep I prefer to use a W/B
    only.

    Now if the W/B doesn't hold you might want to try the daul wheel set up
     
  3. 65hoss

    65hoss LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,360

    A hydro w/b would do better. You have more control also on the hills if you get to sliding. Do you have any friend in the area with a w/b that could let you try theirs?
     
  4. rodney

    rodney LawnSite Member
    from sw,ohio
    Posts: 103

    do a search for the mowerconsultant at the top right of this forum
    any way he travels around so people can demo hustler mowers.
    he could get you a demo .
     
  5. BWSCAPE

    BWSCAPE LawnSite Member
    Posts: 1

    The walk behind will defenitely out perform the rider on the side of a hill.You may still have some slipping especially under wet conditions.I would recommend a hydro over a belt drive.They are more money but its all we use because they can out handle a belt drive in all situations and the extra cost will be recovered in productivity.
     
  6. AltaLawnCare

    AltaLawnCare LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 962

    My Toro 52" sticks like glue to the hills (really banks) I've used it on. It's a T-Bar belt drive........
    like said before - get a hydro. :rolleyes:
     
  7. rodfather

    rodfather LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 9,501

    By the sound of it, you need a good hydro WB instead of a Z. I've been using Ferris for the past 7 or 8 years and have been very happy with them. Toro makes a good WB as well, but you have to get used to the way they turn.
     
  8. hedlawn

    hedlawn Guest
    Posts: 0

    another choice is a 3 wheel such as a Scag STHM. Because you
    can change weight distribution, also you ride behind the mower
    rather than on top. I own a 99 Sthm .
     
  9. awm

    awm LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,354

    hill problems depend somewhat on the operator. u already have a z , and seem leery of trying them with it. believe id listen to my
    gut feelings if i were u. at least with a walk behind u can turn it loose if u have to.im wondering if u bid these problems in your bid to get the job.if not u better bite the bullet now and go to the management for an adjustment ,or u will probably be losing money on it.i always hated it when my hardest job was the one i made the least money on,an dreaded the most. imho. later now
     
  10. tranum

    tranum LawnSite Member
    Posts: 86

    thanks for the comments.
    awm..i was reasonably sure i would need a w/b when i bid the property, and as i said, i included that in my bid. having never actually operated one i was unsure of the capabilties, but with the comments i've read, it seems a w/b will perform on a hillside better than a Z. think i'll take your advice & go with my gut feeling.......
     

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