Winter is right around the corner and if those of you are concerned about 'low ballers' this summer, you are going to terrified of them this winter. Take your eyes off your shoes and fix it on the horizon with a plan in mind for your business 5-10-15 years from now. I am full fledged hardscaper and it is tough. But your view DBS Hardscaper is all yours. What makes me even more work challenged is we offer no concrete product services. All Natural stone. My point... I have a plan, am meeting( and missing some of )my goals, tweaking where we need to, and booking projects for next year this fall in a tiny town in the NorthWest. Let's focus on the positive boys and girls! Did a 'dirt farmer' insult a 'lawn jockey'? Geez!