Square footage question!

Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by GSO LAWNEN4CER, Dec 21, 2012.

  1. GSO LAWNEN4CER

    GSO LAWNEN4CER LawnSite Member
    from GSO NC
    Posts: 116

    Wanted to get some opnions on how ya'll rate yard sizes. Tryn to put together a pricing guideline.

    a 1-8000 sf= small lawn
    b 8000-16,000 sf= medium lawn
    c 16,000-24,000 sf= large lawn
    d 24,000 + xl lawn

    Are my numbers close to what you guys would use?
     
  2. Woody82986

    Woody82986 LawnSite Silver Member
    from DFW, TX
    Posts: 2,128

    I go by total property size rather than lawn size. Having to deal with odd lawn shapes for measurements is a huge hassle. I start with 6k sq.ft. properties and go up from there. In general, I go up in price each 1k sq.ft. until I hit 12k and then things get wider apart.
     
  3. Above Par Lawns

    Above Par Lawns LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 512

    Dude my opinion, you're making it a lot harder than it needs to be. Don't try to pre determine your prices. Each yard you should price accordingly. Figure out what your hourly rate needs to be and go from there. From your numbers you're saying a half acre is a "XL" lawn. But where I come from that's not very large. You're just going to get a bunch of random people's opinions when asking that broad of a question.
     
  4. Above Par Lawns

    Above Par Lawns LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 512

    You can however Google search for the average lot size in your area. That may be a place to start.
     
  5. GSO LAWNEN4CER

    GSO LAWNEN4CER LawnSite Member
    from GSO NC
    Posts: 116

    Right.Was looking to see if I can come as close to matching sq ft to the time it takes to complete the job.
     
  6. GSO LAWNEN4CER

    GSO LAWNEN4CER LawnSite Member
    from GSO NC
    Posts: 116

    From what I've noticed in my area most customers would like a ball park figure,on what its gonna run.I understand that in my personal buying as well.
    If I go to have my windows tinted.I want a close to or a direct price. I dont want a suprise price after the work is done.
     
  7. Above Par Lawns

    Above Par Lawns LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 512

    I think I was misunderstood. I'm just saying to start keeping track of how long it takes YOU to do certain tasks. How long does it take you to edge 1000sq ft? How long to mow 5000sq ft? How long does it take you to blow off 1000sq ft of sidewalk, etc? I always recommend seeing the property first before giving them a firm price. Figure out how long you'll be there and use your hourly rate to determine the price of the job. You can't just say " if you have X sq ft I'll mow for this." There's other things to factor in if you want your business to stay afloat.
     
  8. orangemower

    orangemower LawnSite Silver Member
    from pa
    Posts: 2,773

    Listen to what APL is trying to tell you. No two properties are the same. Even if they have the exact same sqftage, they will be different. So each property is different. Now do as APL said and time yourself to find out how long jobs will take you. Then you can give a price by just looking. No fancy math involved, no measuring wheel at all. As others said, you're making it harder then it needs to be.
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2012
  9. herler

    herler LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 5,144

    They are right, no two properties are the same. It just takes time, you have to get out there and do some so that you learn how long it takes you, then you base future prices off your own experience.

    I know it sounds awful hairy and scary but that's how most of us do it, dive in head first, don't be scared, give some estimates and go from there, you will miss some but we all did (and to a point still do), it will be all right.

    Good luck
     
  10. jrs.landscaping

    jrs.landscaping LawnSite Silver Member
    from Maine
    Posts: 2,716

    Too many variables as stated above. Lawn A is 7 acres and takes 3 of us 2.5hours to mow and trim. Lawn B is 7.25 acres and takes 3 of us 4.5 - 5.5hours to mow and trim. 1/4 of an acre more but there is a lot more trimming and we have to A)bag B)use smaller mowers because of the the obstacles.
     

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