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Stander vs Zero

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Fwilamosky, Feb 22, 2012.

  1. BestImpressions99

    BestImpressions99 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 491

    I've handled hills that our sit down wouldn't fantasize about handling. Search "2011 Grandstand review". My thread should pop up there. On my personal lawn (I don't live in the same city our yards are done in) I've seriously contemplated getting a Grandstand for the next mower.
     
  2. cpllawncare

    cpllawncare LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,659

    I'd almost be willing to go work with one of you guys for a day for free that have standers and are using them on steep hills so you could show me where I'm going wrong, mine simply won't do it without tearing turf.
     
  3. stonebridge

    stonebridge LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 865

    depending on the stander your using and tire pressure, sound like a operator error, not the standers fault. wrights,toros exmarks will grab hills john deere, gravely, everride, great dane, lesco still do but not that much. i have owned all of them and used them in all conditions. technique and setup of morew is key. i can cut all my yard with a 52'' stander just as fast as my 60'' dixie. with less damage to the yards. open field get a zero turn, houses i would do standers
     
  4. cpllawncare

    cpllawncare LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,659

    That's the whole freakin problem, it grabs and tears the turf! I'm talking strictly on hills, not flat turf! It's very frustrating, I had to end up doing some of my accounts with my 21" on the hilly sections so as not to tear the turf thus cutting my productivity wayyyy down, thereby defeating the whole purpose of switching to a stander to begin with. I dare not get on another hill with the dang thing, actually probably going to end up selling it before the season goes into full swing.
     
  5. stonebridge

    stonebridge LawnSite Senior Member
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    witch stander did you have?
     
  6. cpllawncare

    cpllawncare LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,659

    I have a 2011 GS 40" with the 19 Kawasaki, Maybe it's a bad combination not enough weight or something cause it will take off on a full slide going down an incline tearing turf the whole way.
     
  7. unkownfl

    unkownfl LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,838

    Toros and exmarks usually have narrow but taller tires if I remember right. Can you go up and down instead of sideways?
     
  8. cpllawncare

    cpllawncare LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,659

    Sometimes yes sometimes no.I've tried everything, from all sorts of leaning and crazy positions to going up and down on the tire pressure's in 1/2 pound increments to going slow to going fast, you name it
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2012
  9. lawnkingforever

    lawnkingforever LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,280

    If you are ever in western PA you are more than welcome to join me for a day of mowing with my Grandstand. Hilly terrain is very common here. So what is considered a "hill" is very subjective depending on what area of the country you live in. After using my Grandstand for an entire season I can tell you without a doubt there are limits to where you can take this mower. I found myself using a pushmower a little more this past season as opposed to previous years when I ran my ferris wb as my primary mower. Don't get me wrong, the Grandstand for what it is does handle moderate hills very well but in some conditions it is not a viable choice. Even with this drawback, I still feel the gs was a wise investment for my business. The handling, agility, speed and comfort of this mower far outweigh the few negative aspects.
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  10. BestImpressions99

    BestImpressions99 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 491

    When we got our 48"/24hp GS the merchant said the tires were ~10psi. When stepping up from a walk behind you WILL notice a difference, I agree, in what grades you can handle. Now if you're being foolish and trying to mow when it's wet, then you'd have to use a push mower.

    We were skeptacle at first as well, but GS is going to be our next purchase.
     

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