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Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by skurkp, Jun 22, 2005.

  1. skurkp

    skurkp LawnSite Member
    Posts: 248

    Hello to All,
    I am new to this board and to irrigation. I am in class now that will be over August 11 and then I will take the (Texas) state test. I am told from the Water Management Specialists who I had to purchase the book from for the class that there was only a 20% pass rate. Does anyone know why the pass rate is so low and how much of that % is people dueing retakes. Is the test really that hard?

    On the other hand I am talking to a few co-workers about irrigating their yards for almost nothing just for the experience. Any sugjestions on what is the best manufacture to use or are they all pretty much the same?
  2. kerdog

    kerdog LawnSite Member
    Posts: 129

    Hey skurkp---

    I recently got my irrigator license. I had heard the same rumor, about the failure rate. I intially thought that maybe the fault may have been with the instruction/instructors. However, after taking the mandatory 32 hr. class, my thoughts changed as to the problem. The 32 hours required by TCEQ is NOT enough time to teach all that is needed. There is not enough time for the instructors, too much material, all crammed into that time frame. And the instructors don't have the time to take, if someone doesn't 'get' it.
    I hear most people have trouble with the math, the hydraulics. So sharpen your pencil. Fortunately, as you might know, if you 'flunk' a section of the test, you only have to re-test that section, not the entire test. And they revamped the test itself, 2-3 years ago, and from what I've heard, the new and improved version is easier. Four sections, some muliple choice.
    I did pass the first time around, by the way!
    Lots of info. here.....read up some of the past posts.

    As far as 'brands' go........lots of opinions....conclusion--there's no 'one best'.
    Good luck, see ya----

  3. skurkp

    skurkp LawnSite Member
    Posts: 248

    Thanks for the info. I am in a 60 hour class and I found that the instructor gets his ceu's from teaching the class. Unfortunately the class is 2 night per week, no labs, no study groups and the worst part, is the class is two hours long and it initials 70% b/s from the instructor talking about his experience in life and 30% class. To top this off we started off with no books available so we started off behind. I am trying to get my license to do repairs on the commercial properties that I maintain now. When done here I am going to attempt to get a back flow license so I can test my customers annually.
  4. kerdog

    kerdog LawnSite Member
    Posts: 129

    Hey skurkp------

    Gotta figure out a way to keep that instructor on task. Funny......usually it's the other way around, you know. Keep askin' questions. It's good that the class is longer, and somewhat spread out. More time to absorb the material. I can't believe how many people are becoming licensed, must be hundreds a year!

    Just very recently found out that the City of Houston has abandoned having backflows tested annually.(For irrigation, only) Only on/at installation. Claim that they will be following TCEQ, which doesn't call for annuals. ?? Lack of manpower for enforcement was probably the driving force behind that decision. With all the chemical/refineries, hospitals, dr. offices, etc., there is more than they can handle, than worrying about irrigation backflows.

    Oh, well.......

    Think you've got to be licensed irrigator for a couple of years, before you can try for back-flow, check @TCEQ web-site. More requirements to meet for back-flow, than for irrigation. See ya----


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