Steps

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by neversatisfiedj, Aug 1, 2006.

  1. neversatisfiedj

    neversatisfiedj LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Anyone built steps using Belgard Celtic block ?
     
  2. Rex Mann

    Rex Mann LawnSite Senior Member
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    we use Belgard Celtic step units. They are sold in pairs.
    The cap is about 1.5 inches deeper than a Celtic wall cap.
    Cap and riser are 7-inches high.

    Peace,

    Rex

    http://ArizonaPavers.Com
     
  3. neversatisfiedj

    neversatisfiedj LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Rexx here is the situation since my supplier is no help . The rise is 3 1/2 feet and the width is 4 feet. The steps are coming out of a new addition and come up to the new slider onto a patio I'm doing. Belgard's site says nothing about the pedistal method just "cut in method" which does not apply to me . I am not going into a hill , as I said they are coming off of the slider. I have NO wall on the sides, just steps. So I need finished look on the sides as well ? I figure I will need 48 block to accomplish this.
     
  4. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    we used to do all our steps with Celtik. Until the local Belgard manufacturer's quality went down the tubes. Its a shame, as Belgards Celtik Block makes nice steps with 7" rises.

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    This pic is from our web site. Is this what you're lookin for?

    Feel free to brouse our site for ideas.
     
  5. neversatisfiedj

    neversatisfiedj LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Thats it DVS ! Perfect - is that celtic block ? How did you get a finish on the sides ?
     
  6. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    Yes, it is Celtik.

    Just form up the three sides as if you're building a retaining wall. Install caps for the first step.

    Our steps always have TWO courses of block and 1 cap. Totaling to 10-inches of height. Yet, the step risers are 7". See, we bury the first course of block level with the cap infront of it. This keeps the step from sliding forward over time. And if warranty work is ever needed, it makes for EASY and QUICK repairing.

    The inside is backfilled with COMPACTED CR8....NOT soil. NOT stone dust.

    Its all hard to explain in text. Print out the pic and study it hard!

    There are more pics of steps.

    We do alotta steps.

    Brouse our website. Click on services. Then click on patios/walks. You'll find MANY galleries of photos (106 photos to be exact). Click on the thumbnails and they DO enlarge.
     
  7. Mike33

    Mike33 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Very nice, that works out to really what a standard step should be correct? I build a lot of walls very litttle steps, now im doing a job with 3 walls and steps in 2 of them.
    Mike
     
  8. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    yes, most steps have risers of 6-8"

    Seven works out perfect, 6 usually makes too many steps. the more steps - the more the handrails cost.

    Now we do steps with Techo's Mini-Creta. 6" risers. I like Mini-Creta, but I HATE the 6" risers.
     
  9. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
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    Nice work dvs, just chip the edges of the step caps and voila! no smooth edges.
     
  10. neversatisfiedj

    neversatisfiedj LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Interesting to fill the in side with crusher-run. Iam used to building versa-lok and we just pile block on top of block - but you never have to worry about those steps going ANYWHERE. I will try your way as it will save me block. What is your web address ?

    --Josh
     

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