Super Duty 48" for a Trimstar 48"

Discussion in 'Hustler Turf Equip (Archived)' started by browng, Apr 1, 2009.

  1. browng

    browng LawnSite Member
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    I was told today that a walk behind will handle a hill much better than a ZTR so I wanted to get your valuable opinions given I have never used a walk behind. I have a hill that runs across my back yard that has approximately a 23 degree grade, I purchased a Super Duty 48" last June and just haven't been able to get it to cooperate on this hill, I end up leaving skid marks on my way down. I was looking to sell my Super Duty for around $5,900 and thinking I could turn around and buy a Trimstar 48". Is this a better route to take than going to a tractor style mower? To be honest with you I am not real excited about going to a tractor style.
     
  2. djagusch

    djagusch LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Post a pic of the hill. Also how big of a area is the hill and how big is the rest of the yard. Are you mowing the hill side ways? Angled? Up and down? The ZTR in my opinion holds a hill better than a tractor. The Trimstar will beat the ZTR though. Seeing the whole situation will help us pick out what is the best machine for the job.
     
  3. browng

    browng LawnSite Member
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    Take a look at the attached pics and let me know if you think the Trimstar will handle the hill better than my Super Duty. I have never used a walk behind so I have no idea how they respond. My lot is 1/2 acre, after taking out the space for my house and the drive ways I probably don't mow more than 12,000 sq. feet and the hill is about 6,000 sq. feet. With my ZTR I have been mowing it up and down, it is impossible to do it side ways as the front end doesn't hold and heads down hill. You will notice in the pics that the grass is not great on the hill, my goal is to turn it into a nice grassy hill and that is why I want to be able to mow it.

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  4. djagusch

    djagusch LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I would think your mower would be able to handle that hill. Take it at a angle and I'm guessing it will go up it easily. Mowing it sideways should be possible also. Go slow and the bottom wheel lever should be pushed more than the top lever (think of the top wheel slightly dragging compared to the bottom wheel that is pushing up). Once the grass gets established you'll be able to mow faster also.

    The Trimstar would have no problems with that hill. Also with your lot size it probably fits the yard better.

    Either mower would work but if you can't figure the ZTR go with the W/B.

    Also I noticed scalping on the top of the hills crest. Use your foot and lift the deck up when you go over that part to reduce scalping.
     
  5. browng

    browng LawnSite Member
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    I am able to go up it fine, the problem is when I have to go down it the mower sometimes looses traction and begins to skid (you can see some of the marks on the hill). I have worked with the Super Duty for almost a year now and haven't been able to get it to cooperate fully so I think I will give the Trimstar a try if you say it will perform better than the ZTR. I appreciate you taking time to provide valuable insight. Thanks!
     
  6. djagusch

    djagusch LawnSite Platinum Member
    from MN
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    At first the Trimstar (or any walkbehind) will take some time to get use to. Play with it in a parking lot or driveway. After you get the hang of it your yard will be done as quickly as the ZTR took.
     
  7. browng

    browng LawnSite Member
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    OK, thanks! Is there going to be any advantage of one Trimstar over the other (36" vs 48")? I'm not as concerned about the money as I am about getting the right machine.
     
  8. djagusch

    djagusch LawnSite Platinum Member
    from MN
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    With what I see a 48" will do fine.
     
  9. browng

    browng LawnSite Member
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    I read in an old post the new Trimstar will be available in 36"/15hp, 48"/17hp, 54"/19hp or 54"/23hp with electric start. Why is the electric start only available on the 54"/23hp? Is the 17hp going to have ample power for the dual hydros and be able pull a good hill? I would hate to lug it down. I don't really want a 54" deck but I'm considering it given the additional hp and electric start. Any chance of getting a 48" with 23hp and electric start?
     
  10. mowerconsultant

    mowerconsultant LawnSite Fanatic
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    The electric start is only available on the 54" due to cost, it gets expensive adding it to smaller deck and hp units.
    The 48" will be fine in your application, you have to remember your at a much lower weight with a walk behind.
    No chance of a 23/48 electric start, sorry.

    Pj
     

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