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Super-Z HD vs. Lazer RED EFI

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing Equipment' started by TLS, May 1, 2013.

  1. CurbAppealKS

    CurbAppealKS LawnSite Senior Member
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    Hustler would never be my first choice as far as machinery goes, but I'm stuck with that or husqvarna. The nearest dealer outside my area is Deere at 30 miles away. Others are at an hour one way. So for dealer support I'm looking at hustler. I like my 2010 super z, the 66" xr7 cuts very well in my grasses. The clippings are fairly long, but as I understand that's what it's designed to do. Reading the negatives on the vx4 was one thing, but seeing that big of a mess really turns me off. Especially since I do a fair amount of heavy moist cutting around here.
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  2. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    My suggestion to everyone is demo demo demo....and on your grass or accounts not in the dealers parking lot.
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  3. CurbAppealKS

    CurbAppealKS LawnSite Senior Member
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    That's the problem. No demos to be had. Both dealers are too small to have inventory sitting around to be used.
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  4. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Hustler should have an area rep that does demos. Your dealer should be setting that up, if not I would call myself.
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  5. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Michigan
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    That makes getting the right machine very tough for sure.
     
  6. CurbAppealKS

    CurbAppealKS LawnSite Senior Member
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    I'll keep that in mind when it comes time to buy.
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  7. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
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    There is a great deal of differences in grasses, that grass looks like Kentucky Bluegrass, which is of very fine, limp texture, but looking at the mower you can see it is extremely wet in the area they were cutting.

    I have never seen anything that would come close to resembling this with any Hustler I've ever owned. These mowers are so fast the workers should have run over the grass cutting half the amount they removed in one pass, then cut it again at the level they want as there finished product. The first pass not only lets the mower deal with less clippings to disburse, this pass also allows drying of the grass which in return makes the next pass cut much easier.

    This is not only ugly, you can't leave it that way for the fact of chancing the smothering of good grass under the clumps. I would never dream of trying to cut large wet grass down to a desired level in one pass, and no matter what is said, I don't believe there is a deck made that would satisfy me with one cut in that type grass. I will not leave one clump anywhere, and there is not a deck made that will cut in that situation with one pass and leave it satisfactory to my eyes.

    From looking at the mower, it does not appear as just wet grass was the only culprit, it appears they cut through standing water and mud in some areas. That mud did not get on their tanks by accident, they rutted an area somewhere.

    Why would anyone in their right mind after making one pass and seeing the mess they are making; not figure out there is an easier way to handle the situation, which is double, or even triple cutting at different heights.

    What were they going to do to rectify this terrible job, surely they would not leave with a lawn in that shape?

    You can tell from the last picture the mower leaves a good cut, just not in swamps.
     
  8. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Mostly KBG and fescue here. That machine was mowing ditches earlier so thats why its wet and muddy. The grass really wasnt that wet. If you follow my reviews you will see real wet cutting with tons of pics. I cut all day today in the same grass and same conditions with no double cutting. A couple clumps here and there but no mess.
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    Last edited: May 30, 2013
  9. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I have been cutting up here my whole life. I can promise you that there are sevaral mowers that can cut in todays conditions(which I dont consider bad) with one pass. I mow in the rain almost every week! I consider myself a cut quality freek for what its worth.
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  10. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
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    Good, you made an admittance, and like I said, I would not leave one clump, I'm just to much of a perfectionist. My mower is so fast I can double cut faster than most could single cut anyway.

    There is a great deal of difference in the stiff blade grasses I cut and the northern grasses. I cut KBG and fescue along with some wild Bermuda, but due to the area of the country I'm in, the grass is of a stiffer texture and dryer nature. We have more direct sunlight for a longer period during the day than you would in your area, this in itself is a factor most have never considered, and does in fact affect the way grass cuts.

    Had you, or anyone else contributing to these threads ever considered the specific factor of sunlight difference between cutting southern grass and northern grass? The closer to the equator until you reach tropical areas, the more erect grass will stand and stay dry for longer periods of the day.
     

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