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Super Z's 2012 Versus 2013 Speed Difference

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing Equipment' started by puppypaws, Aug 13, 2013.

  1. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
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    You made the statement in an earlier post that you found, as I did, that raising the seat about 1 1/2" with air pressure is what gave the best ride.

    I would believe raising the seat with air pressure serves the purpose of giving the best ride for the person's weight. You sound as if you change the pressure regularly, I would say most people do not. They set the seat to where it gives the best ride for their weight, and this is where it remains, but here again, it's a Ford, Chevrolet scenario, if it satisfies a person, then that's the action they need to take.
  2. Realslowww

    Realslowww LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,527

    Actually a mower of that speed is creating a dangerous situation and Hustler could be opening the door for lawsuits, the unit should have 2 speeds with a locking devise so the owner can lock it in slow mode for safety if desired.
  3. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,353

    Yup 1-2" is my favorite position for comfort. But I do move it depending on conditions especially steep hills. But if I had only one choice it would be 1 1/2".
  4. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
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    Given the Grammer seat feels the same as the Gravely I tried, I will manually pump it up to my desired height, and probably never change it again, the same as I have with the last several mowers I've owned with Michigan seats. I set them on the best ride and forget they have an adjustment, as will most people.
  5. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Most commercial cutters will adjust to different confitions given the choice and ease. I mow a small apple orchard with lots of low hanging branches, with no air I get the extra head room. The Gravely air seat is far superior than the michigan seats. There is no comparison at all.
  6. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
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    I've used both an agree the air suspension seat is definitely better, to say it is better than the air ride Grammer seat Hustler uses, I doubt it seriously.

    That's funny about being able to lower the seat enough to make a difference when mowing under apple tree limbs. I would have never thought 1 1/2" would make that kind of difference.
  7. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I have never used the air grammer seat so I cant state that gravely's is better. Im sure its also amazing and better than the typical suspn. seats. But I will say an electric pump is a nice feature vs a hand pump.

    As far as head clearance on limbs it makes a huge difference. I have the scars to prove it!!:) Also a lot of my large commercial acerage accounts have a ton of ornamental trees that hang low.
  8. greenology

    greenology LawnSite Senior Member
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    Yea I can reiterate what GMLC says, as will prob most guys mowing different properties all the time. even 1" would make a difference.
  9. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Michigan
    Posts: 14,125

    Yea, but you also never thought that an extra 1- 1.5 mph would make that much difference either, but now you know different.
  10. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
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    I am getting a little more comfortable with the faster speed, in other words I would use it if facing a fast moving rain storm, but for the most part I will mow in the 14 to 14 1/2 mph range in my long open areas. I think you could see in the video I would have no problem mowing at a full 15 mph, just don't need to kick my 64 yr old body around any more than necessary.

    I still do really well for my age, I've got 64 year old friends that could not get out of bed the next day if they rode a mower 4 hours at the speeds I use. I would be willing to guess most of you younger guys would feel a difference as well. There is a great deal of difference when mowing at 14 to 15 mph, than at what you boys run at which is probably in the 8 to no more than 10 mph range, it's a totally different feel, and your body knows well, believe me.

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