do you accept advice, from people who have FAILED in this business, and STILL don't see why they failed? i have 3 guys that were in business. one for 18 yrs, the other for 22 yrs, the other lasted less than 3. what they have in common.....they all have left the business to work for someone else. another thing they have in common......they are always giving me advice. "bob, you can't do it like that, let me tell you the way i always used to do it." and i'm like, "well, you failed! please don't give me advice, unless you are telling me YOU DID IT WRONG." the biggest mistakes i see that they all made were- not having due dates on thier bills. this created constant cash flow problems. and- giving away little freebies that added up . and not charging extra when opportunity allows you to. for example: if i fertilize, and treat for weeds, i charge for both. one for fertilization, one for herbicide treatment. the fact that it comes in the same bag matters not. better off that i buy them separately, so i can charge accordingly? nope. also charging low prices and planning to make it up in volume was a big mistake for them all. if the common price was $25 for a certain property in a certain area, they would come in at $22, where my logic is to try and squeeze the extra $3 bucks out of the client, and charge $28, rather then give it to them 3 bucks cheaper. i guess i'm rambling here, but i see all 3 of these guys quite often and they are always giving me advice, but never based on what they feel were thier mistakes, but rather they feel they did everything right, but it just didn't work out. my advice: DON'T take advice from people who have failed! unless of course they are humbly admitting they have failed, and advising you based on thier mistakes.