talstar and ticks

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by plc87, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. plc87

    plc87 LawnSite Member
    from Iowa
    Posts: 119

    I've been doing apps for two years now and haven't ventured into any kind of add-on service for "bugs" until now. Had a customer call and asked if I could do anything about ticks; I guess his dog keeps picking them up just by being in the yard. I have a gallon of talstar that I bought for my own personal use for spiders at my house. Label calls for 1 ounce per k for ticks.

    Planned on blanketing yard, landscaping, foundation, and into the tree line at the back of their lot. I told them I would do some more research but think that three applications for this year should get them taken care of very well for the rest of the year. Figure one now, aug 15, and end of sept. Is it worth their time and money. I'm pricing it the same as their fert/spray app and will do very well for the 20 min it will take me to get the job done.

    Anyone have much experience with talstar?
     
  2. mikerabbit

    mikerabbit LawnSite Member
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    I use it in Westchester NY, large tick population... Works very well, last year only did two applications for the season, no issues.
    Mike
     
  3. humble1

    humble1 LawnSite Silver Member
    from MA
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    We do a lot of tick and mosquito control dedicated truck setup just for that. Talstar works well. We offer 3 times per year. But we also offer a monthly program for property that would get a lot of reintroduction from animals and birds. We used maxthor bifentherin last year I bought 12 cases to try. Settled out quick, foamy as as all hell. Talstar mixes nice love that stuff. We also use some other stuff as well in rotation.
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  4. DEPENDABLE LANDSCAPING

    DEPENDABLE LANDSCAPING LawnSite Bronze Member
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    We use the granular on a few properties 2and times per season. Works well for us.
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  5. fmcprosolutions

    fmcprosolutions Inactive
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    Hey guys, I'm Lauren from FMC, the mfg. for Talstar . Here is some info regarding Ticks.....(Including ticks that may transmit Lyme Disease and Rocky Mountain Spotted fever): Do not make spot applications. Treat the entire area where exposure to ticks may occur. Use higher spray volumes when treating areas with dense ground cover or heavy leaf litter. Ticks may be reintroduced from surrounding areas on host animals. Retreatment may be necessary to achieve and/or maintain control during periods of high pest pressure. Repeat application is necessary only if there are signs of renewed activity. Limit repeat application to no more than once per seven days. Do not allow people or pets on treated surfaces until spray has dried.
    Deer ticks (Ixodes sp.) have a complicated life cycle that ranges over a two year period and involves four life stages. Applications should be made in the late fall and/or early spring to control adult ticks that are usually located on brush or grass above the soil surface and in mid to late spring to control larvae and nymphs that reside in the soil and leaf litter.

    American dog ticks: may be a considerable nuisance in suburban settings, particularly where homes are built on land that was previously field or forest. These ticks commonly congregate along paths or roadways where humans are likely to be encountered. Applications should be made as necessary from mid-spring to early fall to control American dog tick larvae, nymphs and adults.

    Tick Program

    • Spring & Summer- use Talstar granular with Verge applications for larvae/nymph control

    Talstar-2 applications two months apart @ 2.3 lbs/1000

    If adults present, spray Talstar on foliage and fencing

    • Sept-Oct focus on liquid Talstar for adult control

    Broadcast spray foliage and fencing (wood, stone, etc) to target questing ticks

    Treat perimeter of house-leaf residual on potential overwintering sites (under siding, under landscaping)

    Here's the link to plug into a Market Specialist for support. http://www.fmcprosolutions.com/Home/FindaFMCRep.aspx
     
  6. mikerabbit

    mikerabbit LawnSite Member
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    fmc,
    I believe thAt there is an ammedment to the label in NY for stink bugs. What are your recommendations for these guys.they were a pain the past two fall seasons here in the Hudson Valley of NY.
    mike
     
  7. MikeT

    MikeT LawnSite Member
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    Hi All,
    I don't know about other states, but please note that here in PA, you must also be licensed in category 16, Public Health/Invertebrate Pests, to spray for deer ticks, as mice carry the ticks that spread lyme disease.
     
  8. humble1

    humble1 LawnSite Silver Member
    from MA
    Posts: 2,499

    I would also add, that the granular bifentherin works fine on lawns, but you cant get it deep into the thick stuff on wood lines, also ticks will hang out up off the ground on brush, 4-5 ft. They dont jump out of trees but they will be anywhere host animals are goiung to be, such as chipmunks and squirels.
    We spray liquid so that we get all veg up to 6ft off the ground and about 20ft into the tree line, we spray everything landscaped. This is the best approach. As far as the stink bugs I am liking lambda cyhalothrin these days.
     
  9. grassmasterswilson

    grassmasterswilson LawnSite Platinum Member
    from nc
    Posts: 4,537

    same here in NC. once you start applying on structures you need a whole different liscense. I also think you need a different liscense for mosquitos. Why I don't know?!? I guess I could fog bushes and say I was treating for worms instead of mosquitos.

    Its funny how the restrictions run. I can spray a lawn for insects but not for mosquitos? Go figure.
     
  10. humble1

    humble1 LawnSite Silver Member
    from MA
    Posts: 2,499

    I have my mosquito cat 47, turf and we do some pest control. I have a friend in NH that sprays for ticks on lawns and just lists it as spraying for turf insects, and he has his tree and shrub lic so sprays for whatever is out at the time. What's nuts in NH and arse backwards is how and where you can use round up. You mix the same have the same responsibility with mixing, storage and use. If you spray on turf you need a turf lic, if you spray a weed in the bed you need tree and shrub, and if you spray a weed on the sidewalk you need right away.
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