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temporary submersion

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by pete scalia, Oct 24, 2007.

  1. pete scalia

    pete scalia LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 960

    I have a project that is going to require in grade lights (requested by the owner). It is right on the beach literally. There is a rip rap dividing the owners yard from the sandy private beach. The caretaker has advised me that when there is a large storm (usually the remnants of a hurricane that makes it up the coast) the sea water has come over the stone rip rap and has blanketed the yard in about 2-4" of sea water. All the plantings are tolerant of sea salt and the fixtures need to be as well. That was made clear to me. Usually the water only remains for a few hrs at most because the soil is very sandy. I need an ingrade that is suitable for these conditions. My search has lead me to the Kim Minivault.
    I'd like to use it but will this fixture remain watertight when submerged for a few hours or should I go with a fixture that is rated for underwater use?
  2. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
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  3. pete scalia

    pete scalia LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 960

    The owner doesn't want to see any lights
    Thanks for the lead
    Nice lights
    But they are in Hawaii
    Gotta be expensive to ship here
    I have a source for Kim on LI

    Anyone have any experience with the Minivault for temporary submersion
  4. Go Halogen

    Go Halogen LawnSite Member
    Posts: 102

    These have survived some standing water in Dewey Beach, DE.
    Taake a look.



  5. pete scalia

    pete scalia LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 960

    Is that Vista?
  6. Go Halogen

    Go Halogen LawnSite Member
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    Yes.....These are images from their web site.
  7. pete scalia

    pete scalia LawnSite Senior Member
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    thanks I'll look into them. Is this fixture the same as their submersible that some have claimed leaks here ?
  8. ccfree

    ccfree LawnSite Member
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    Hey Pete, the problem with underwater rated lights, is they must stay submerged in order to keep them cool. What you are looking for is a wet/dry fixture. Not many of these around. I know that Kasco has one but it is a bullet. You might also look at Hydrel. They have one but I know it is pricey. The only other option I can think of is a well light by FX Luminaire. I have been told that the fixture inside on the canister is built to waterproof specifications. Double check on that though. Maybe that will help.
  9. Lite4

    Lite4 LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,113

    No pete, that was an underwater fixture from Vista. The light does not leak, precautions need to be taken to seal the end of the wire insulation jacket, but the fixtures are sound. I have used those shown above. One thing you need to be certain of is that the screws are tight when you install them or they will leak. I have had a few instances of this. It was most unsatisfying.
  10. Go Halogen

    Go Halogen LawnSite Member
    Posts: 102

    No, these are a bit different. The type that were discussed before are the 5263 in-ground path lights. They can leak if the cover is removed and not replaced correctly. The screws need to be tightened slowly and evenly or else gap is produced.

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