*Note: There are a couple of real questions towards the bottom of my ramble. Thanks! Well, I guess we've ran our course. We probably could keep this thing going and survive the latest hits on paper. But that dosn't account for the human factor...David. It's been 8 years this month since he started. He was 29 then...now he's not. Now he's walking with a backache more often than not. His feet hurt more often than not. His skin's fried despite sunblock and he's just plain tired. Not so much physically tired, but tired of fighting for accounts, putting up with PITA customers, and the schoolyard mentality of his competition. The cops won't arrest people who steal from him, most of the employees that come around have been in prison or should be, and Karma dosn't seem to work here. It's like we're in a Karmic Twilight Zone, where being the "bigger man" turns around and bites you in the...well, you know where. Add all of that to we're a 6 hour drive to the nearest of the kids' grandparents, and an old promise to me that he made...about not staying here the rest of our lives. I kind of just started getting used to it here. I imagined my children growing up and helping dad. Oh, well. This spring we lost a couple really big jobs part to bids and part to David having been sick last fall and winter. He told me that if we lost 1 more big account, we were done and we were moving to Ohio. (Where I was raised.) Well, on Monday...we lost another big account. We are down more than $4000 monthly income. Now, he's already laid off all the employees and made other money saving cuts. And, like I said at the beginning, I think we really could make it if we sucked it in a bit more. At least, until Winter, and then hope we can land a big contract again. But, he said he's just too tired of it to do anymore. SO... Here's the deal. We need to sell the business. I know there are several threads on here already about buying and selling contracts. I'll revisit those. We really only need to pay off one piece of equipment and some vendors to be free and clear business...that's a plus. And we only really need to sell our house...not so great. And, he SAYS he's not going to do lawn care again (But I don't believe him...he probably will, just not nearly on the scale he's at...like neighborhood lawn-boy or something...I just don't see him not doing any of it.) I guess it all boils down to: Do any of you have any good advise about whether he should keep a minimum amount of commercial equipment (I think he should keep 1 mower at least, 1 chainsaw, etc, most guys need those things anyway, right? I mean, we'll have a yard in Ohio to mow, too.)? He's thinking about keeping his OTPC spraying license here and comming down during the winter months to spray? Anyone do that? Is it worth it? (I know it will depend on the main work he finds.) I wonder if Ohio and Alabama OTPS is comparable at all. We're thinking of closing shop around OCT. Does that seem like a realistic time-line? Do these things take longer? I guess that depends too. He has a CDL and probably will utilize that for a while, as well. And, I think I'm going to clean houses. We'll see. This is something we're starting to get used to now. Moving the kids close to Family is important to us. His Dad and my Grandparents will still be in FL, and his Grandmother is in NV. But, my parents, siblings, close cousins and Great-Grandmother are all right there, and the kids will benefit greatly.