The "Chilehead Way" of Collecting From Deadbeats

Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by Chilehead, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama LawnSite Fanatic
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    I wonder if you will get the maintance contract???

    My brither ownes a construction company, he went to collect a rather large bill, the owner wanst in his office and he told the secrtety if "I dont get paid today your boss will have 2 broken legs", so the company sent an employee with a check and said "my boss is gonna contact his lawyer because you threatened him" my brother told him "thats fine well break the lawyers legs also"
     
  2. JContracting

    JContracting LawnSite Bronze Member
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    That is an awesome story. I'll have to try that if I get deadbeat clients in the future. I like that people use the police to get scumbags to pay for what they bought! As business owners we should do no less than what your cell phone, credit card, bank, etc. will do in order to get paid and that is do what they can to the fullest extent of the law.
     
  3. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    It was the wise use of the word,,, THEFT... :)
     
  4. PROCUT1

    PROCUT1 LawnSite Platinum Member
    from TN
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    Depending on the state, you will have hit and miss luck with the police.

    In NY, there does exist the theft of services law but this type of work is not included in it. It also specifies INTENT. You have to show they intended to take services without paying.

    You may get an officer that isn't well versed on the law to help, but it is a civil matter and they are not supposed to intervene.

    Like taking a cab and running without paying is theft of services. Taking a cab and when you get to your stop "realizing you forgot money" is not.
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  5. Chilehead

    Chilehead LawnSite Bronze Member
    Male, from Stockbridge, GA
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    Thank you....thank you very much!:drinkup:
     
  6. Chilehead

    Chilehead LawnSite Bronze Member
    Male, from Stockbridge, GA
    Posts: 1,893

    This is true. However, there is a term in legal circles called "intent by implication". If a client signs a contract to have work done, then they are implying that they voluntarily chose to the terms of the contract--including payment. This is where taking before/after pics of a job site come in. If I can show proof (the pictures) of work performed as outlined in a contract(which I also present), then I have the materials required to prove intent of nonpayment if a customer so chooses to do so. Neither the contract ALONE nor the pictures ALONE would do me any good in busting someone, but when they are BOTH presented--A-ha!--intent of nonpayment is proven.
     
  7. PROCUT1

    PROCUT1 LawnSite Platinum Member
    from TN
    Posts: 4,909

    I can only speak about NY. Each state has their own law. NY law is very specific on the types of services that are included and proven intent. Lawn and landscape services would not qualify.

    I read the GA law and it is much more vague so I can see where it is a grey area and might work depending on the officer you get.
     
  8. Blades Lawn Maintenance

    Blades Lawn Maintenance LawnSite Bronze Member
    Male, from Baton Rouge, La
    Posts: 1,233

    Well played
     
  9. XYZLawnPros

    XYZLawnPros LawnSite Senior Member
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    Before I'd call the city police I would call the sheriff. Sheriffs are the only lawful public servants with any real authority. Although remember, no public servant has ANY authority over you whatsoever.
     
  10. Utah Lawn Care

    Utah Lawn Care LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,304

    I have had 2 people this year refuse to pay for more than 1 mowing service because they were out of town and as far as they could tell I hadn't mowed more than once and they couldn't tell I fertilized. If you got him to actually pay that's great. People like this need help, even if it's from the police.
     

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