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the Dreaded OSHA

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by yardsmith, Mar 1, 2000.

  1. yardsmith

    yardsmith LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ohio
    Posts: 627

    A friend in the biz told me last yr. that OSHA was out checking various lawn care co's. in our area & seeing if they were up to code. Told me one guy got fined $7000 for improper gas cans/containers, guards missing on mowers (no duh), & other stuff. Anyone have info on what exactly they look for, or where to find out what exactly you have to do to be up to code? That's the last thing someone needs is to have OSHA force them into bankruptcy because of their overkill way of suffocating the little guy. <br>He said the 'approved gas cans' cost about $75 each! Gimme a break! I know alot of under the table guys are out there with some horrendous type of setups & stuff, but alot of us are trying to do things right & can still get nailed for just about anything they want to look for, esp. if they're having a bad day.<br>Any suggestions/info?<p>----------<br>Smitty ô¿ô<br>
     
  2. paul

    paul Lawnsite Addict
    Posts: 1,625

    It can happen,the right gas cans are just the start, how about safety glasses, shoes,hearing protection, fuel spill clean-up. Then there is no MSD sheets on the job, no safety plan.......<br>The fines can get quite high<p>----------<br>paul<br>
     
  3. Green Acres

    Green Acres LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 316

    Does anyone have an example MSD or job safety manual? Also where do you get a list from OHSA that stats everything that you need? Thanks.
     
  4. paul

    paul Lawnsite Addict
    Posts: 1,625

    Go to WWW.cch.com<br>This site has many books and much information. They can also help you start a saftey program, some services are expensive(but cheap compared to a OSHA fine).<br>Also look to see if the local construction industry trade group has OHSA saftey classes they have a 10 hr course, 40 hour course and one on excavations. <p>----------<br>paul<br>
     
  5. Scraper

    Scraper LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,656

    An MSDS is short for material safety data sheet. All hazardous substances have one which lists the formulation, first aid and precautions as well as contact information. These sheets are product specific and would be found with herbicides, pesticides etc.... In most cases, the bottle may come with a &quot;mini&quot; MSDS, but a full official copy can be obtained from the manucfaturer of the product. Not a bad idea to keep them in a binder in your truck.
     
  6. Lee Homan

    Lee Homan LawnSite Member
    Posts: 163

    $7000.00!!!!!!<p>Give me a break. In my home town a young guy was chewed up to his waist in a pallet shredder working for a major container company and they only fined them $10,000.<br>They fine a little ole lawncare company $7,000.00? Talk about injustice.
     
  7. thelawnguy

    thelawnguy LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,412

    Like the IRS, its a persons financial inability to defend themselves which determines the fine(unofficially of course). OSHA levies huge fines on those with limited resources to hire an attorney to help defend themselves, and the IRS audits the same people (little guys like all of us here).<p>Bill
     
  8. paul

    paul Lawnsite Addict
    Posts: 1,625

    Quote from the OSHA book 29 CRF PART 1926 amended Feburary 1, 1999 page 1926.151 &quot;Only approved containers and portable tanks shall be used for storage and handleing of flameable and combustibule liquids. Approved metal saftey cans shall be used for the handleing and use of flammable liquids in quantities greater than one gallon, except that this shall not apply to those flammable liquid materials that are highly viscid (extremely hard to pour) which may be used and handled in origianl shipping containers. For quantities of one gallon or less, only the original container or approved metal saftey cans shall be used for storage, use, and handeling of flammable liquids&quot;<p>----------<br>paul<p>sorry if i miss spelled anything but the print in my book is about 4point.<p>
     
  9. paul

    paul Lawnsite Addict
    Posts: 1,625

    Lee they might not have fine him for the accident, But for other safety problems, Operator error or the operator might have had the training but was careless or foolish they know the company can't stop all accidents. I think they had enough saftey rules in place to cover their *ss. <p>----------<br>paul<br>
     
  10. cjcland

    cjcland LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 278

    what if i am the only one working, i have no employees do i still need to worry about osha<p>----------<br>CJC Landscape Management<br>Winter Haven, Florida
     

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