Tif419 or tifgrand?

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by exmarkking, Nov 17, 2013.

  1. exmarkking

    exmarkking LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I'm building a home north of Atlanta and for the most part the property should get mostly sun. The builder pretty much clear cuts the lots. The home should face east for the most part. I was thinking about paying a little extra and getting them to install tifgrand instead of the common tif419. I'm not to concerned with shade but looking for a better hybrid Bermuda for reel mowing etc. I think the tifgrand is more dense and a finer leave. What do you guys think?
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  2. alexschultz1

    alexschultz1 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    It's worth the extra money if (like me) you are obsessed with your lawn.
     
  3. exmarkking

    exmarkking LawnSite Bronze Member
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    That's what I figured. I want a good grass and the 419 looks to plain jane to me
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  4. exmarkking

    exmarkking LawnSite Bronze Member
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    So is there a noticeable difference in appearance?
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  5. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
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    Huuuuge difference. 419 is grayish and stringy unless you fertilize the heck out of it. Color and density are very good on Tifgrand with 1/4 the fertilizer. 1/4 the fertilizer means a 7 day mowing at 3/4" rather than mowing every other day to keep the same height. That is in Hawaii, where our days are much shorter than in the Continental US. Tifgrand also holds good density under light shading.
     
  6. exmarkking

    exmarkking LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Ok, so what about tifsport?. I shouldnt need a shade tolerant variety, I was just leaning towards the grand because of the finer texture. I can get my hands on tif grand, tif sport, and 419. I don't want the 419. So now I guess it's down to the sport or grand.
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  7. greendoctor

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    Do the Tifgrand. I maintain a couple of Tifgrand lawns. Easiest thing to take care of. Zoysia, specifically El Toro dominates the fine turf market here. What is not disclosed is how fast it grows and how hard it is to mow. It tears up reel blades compared to mowing bermuda. Tifsport will develop a lot more thatch in a home lawn situation. It is meant to be trampled on by gangs of 350 lb men. If not, it gets puffy.
     
  8. alexschultz1

    alexschultz1 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Tifsport is more "itchy" but still way better than 419. I would stick with Tifgrand. It also does really well in areas that are shaded by bushes or trees. When you have a plant that is in the perfect spot to stress a small section of Bermuda bc of shade, Tifgrand won't struggle in that spot. I have always had success with 1 yard of landscape mix topsoil per pallet too.
     
  9. exmarkking

    exmarkking LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Sounds good. Thanks for the info
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  10. greendoctor

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    Good point about the shade. Most bermudas cannot do areas where a shrub casts a shadow part of the day. Bermuda normally is for open lawns with not a tree or shrub in sight.
     

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