OK, Had a customer stump me... I gave an estimate to a lady and she apparently doug out another organic guy in the area. There are more over in the area that she is. I think I lost her because of the answer I had for her question. But I also think that it was the best thing that could have ever happened to me. The question: "When you use the traditional chems in your Hybrid program... what is the harshest level of chems you use?" What she was asking is how bad are the bad chems that you use. I didn't have an answer. She said that another company she talked with stated that they didn't use any chemicals harsher than that with the warning word "Caution". The lowest category. Hmmm... It turned out that the chems I used were not above this cat. too but I didn't know that. The chems I figured were chems, doesn't matter what they are rated at, I am just getting the job done with the least amount possible. So, What else can I regulate to that point. No, I can't get rid of the chems all together. I use them to help control out of control lawns. But only to the point that is absolutely needed. If they aren't needed, I don't use them. Even if it is easier, basically comes down to wether it is reasonable for me to do it by other methods. Any thoughts?