tips for firewood bussiness

Discussion in 'Christmas Trees & Seasonal' started by Shadowrider, Dec 6, 2005.

  1. The landscaper

    The landscaper LawnSite Senior Member
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    dang, I wish I could get 450 this way. I don't know exactly what its going for but I would think less than 200 for sure and prolly under 150-175.

    Olderthandirt, what is it around you?
     
  2. olderthandirt

    olderthandirt LawnSite Platinum Member
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    $100-$125...................
     
  3. RonB

    RonB LawnSite Senior Member
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    If you are cutting wood without a request for a certain length, what is your standard cut length?
     
  4. Petr51488

    Petr51488 LawnSite Silver Member
    from NJ
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    Any type of conveyor belt.. The ones for straw might be to big.. but for me.. one that would be about 2 feet wide, 12 feet long would be perfect. It would help me stack and load faster.. I would use either a small electric motor or a gas motor..
     
  5. sildoc

    sildoc LawnSite Silver Member
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    To make any money cutting firewood you have to presell it. This takes time and customers. It builds year to year.
    Even preselling it you need to have a good trailer that can haul 3-5 cords on top of your 1 cord on the pickup.
    Here we are getting right at 165 per cord presold.
    My father and I go out and cut right at 8-10 cords in a 6 hr period + an hour drive time. Biggest thing is that you need to prescout your trees before the real cold weather sets in. Make sure you have good dead snags.
    One of our other bonuses is that we do alot of thinning in the winter to keep in shape. Alot of time we stack and let season for a year on thinning we do and come back the next year and haul off for sale.
    There is money in fire wood but you need to know what your costs and market is.
     
  6. sildoc

    sildoc LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,925

    To make any money cutting firewood you have to presell it. This takes time and customers. It builds year to year.
    Even preselling it you need to have a good trailer that can haul 3-5 cords on top of your 1 cord on the pickup.
    Here we are getting right at 165 per cord presold.
    My father and I go out and cut right at 8-10 cords in a 6 hr period + an hour drive time. Biggest thing is that you need to prescout your trees before the real cold weather sets in. Make sure you have good dead snags.
    One of our other bonuses is that we do alot of thinning in the winter to keep in shape. Alot of time we stack and let season for a year on thinning we do and come back the next year and haul off for sale.
    There is money in fire wood but you need to know what your costs and market is.
     
  7. LwnmwrMan22

    LwnmwrMan22 LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Next year will be my 11th year selling wood.

    It's alot of work for not very much pay.

    I've got about $70k in equipment to do it.

    This year we're stacking all of our wood on collapsable pallets so that when we deliver next fall, the wood is already stacked and we can pull the wood off the trailer with a 4-wheel and all-terrain pallet jack.

    We can deliver (12) 4'x8'x16" loads in one trip to Minneapolis / St. Paul, each being about $125 + extra for restacking, if the customer doesn't want it left on the pallet.

    Those 12 loads can be dropped off in about 5-6 hours, depending on the drive time inbetween each, when people are home, etc.

    Just like with lawn care, you have to become very mechanized if you're going to do any amount of wood by yourself, or you're just not going to last.

    I only sell oak firewood, which I get for free, I just have to go cut it myself.

    Hopefully in 2-3 years I'll have a kiln so I can dry the wood in 10-14 days.
     
  8. Petr51488

    Petr51488 LawnSite Silver Member
    from NJ
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    They make the kiln's that can do that? How much do they go for? Is there a websight for something like that?
     
  9. muddstopper

    muddstopper LawnSite Silver Member
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    I don't know if you can actually buy a kiln for drying firewood but it wouldn't be hard to make. Most of the homeowner plans for lumber kilns are nothing more than metal leanto's. I don't have the correct angles, you will have to look that up, but basically you frame up a leanto shed and cover it with tin. You leave an uncovered space at the bottom and an opening at the top. You make the leanto with doors so that you can place the lumber, or in your case firewood, inside and then close the doors. the convection of the heat rising inside the kiln sucks fresh air thru the opening in the bottom an circulates it around and thru the wood inside, exiting out the top. the air rising thru the structure will pull the moisture out of the wood, drying it to a seasoned condition. From what I have read, it doesn't take all that long to complete the process. I suppose you could add heat or fans to the structure to speed things along. I also suspect that you could use plastic instead of tin to keep cost down.
     
  10. Signature Landscaping1

    Signature Landscaping1 LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Mass
    Posts: 1,497

    Ive been selling oak firewood with my dad for about 4 years now, we started out with a conveyor, now we have a kubota tractor loader, its way better than the conveyor, faster and easier. and we also have a splitter, and a bunch of chainsaws, it always helps to have a splitter.
     

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