Tire & tube question

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by bigsnowdog, Sep 27, 2010.

  1. bigsnowdog

    bigsnowdog LawnSite Member
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    I have a zero turn that has Carlisle Turfmasters on the in the sise 24 x 12.00 - 12 NHS. They are tubeless tires. As an aside, I have never had such troubles with flats as I have had with a zero turn. Running tractors I have had two flats in 32 years. With this machine I have had four flats in two years.

    The fronts I fixed with slime. The rear on one side I fixed with slime and the other had what seemed to be a porosity in the sidewall, so I put a tube in it. The Carlisle dealer stocks a 24/26 x 12 x 12 tube; that is what I used.

    Yesterday that same tire went down. I got it apart and was amazed to see the tube showed signs of being too big. It had lines from what I assume to be wrinkles and folds. A pin hole had developed at what I take to be a chafing point.

    I have a good 40 years of experience working with tube type tires on trucks, cars, and motorcycles. I know how to get a tube in place and inflate it with no stem, ensuring there are no wrinkles. I was careful to do that. Inflating the tube outside of the tire makes it apparent, I believe, that it is too big, and the ID of it is not a smooth radius.

    Am I missing something here? Is there a better tube size to use in this tire?

    Thank you.
     
  2. kilgoja

    kilgoja LawnSite Senior Member
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    why would you use a tube?...just plug or patch the tire and use it tubeless like you are supposed to
     
  3. bigsnowdog

    bigsnowdog LawnSite Member
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    Patches don't work in sidewalls.
     
  4. GravelyGuy

    GravelyGuy LawnSite Silver Member
    from Indiana
    Posts: 2,517

    Tubes haven't held up for me in ZTR tires. The tube rubs against the rough area inside the tire and tears eventually.
     
  5. bigsnowdog

    bigsnowdog LawnSite Member
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    Are you running tubeless on the front or solids?
     
  6. GravelyGuy

    GravelyGuy LawnSite Silver Member
    from Indiana
    Posts: 2,517

    I have both. I've never had a flat in the front except when the tires pops off the bead.
     
  7. kilgoja

    kilgoja LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 944

    i guess buy a new tire...that is the solution
     

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