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too much pre-m

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by naylorman, Oct 10, 2009.

  1. naylorman

    naylorman LawnSite Member
    Posts: 4

    how long will pre-m stay active in my tank and how and should i dispose of it?
     
  2. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,531

    Bigger operations will have wastewater tanks they pump into and recycle the water/mix a little at a time by adding it to the tank as they fill at a later time. When I have leftover mix I spray my own lawn or offer "freebies" to family,friends or good customers. This can be areas that have not been treated for whatever reason. However, unless it's a special project/different purpose where what's currently in my tank might be detrimental, I just fill on top and continue with whatever I was going to do. If you're just wanting to empty your tank for the season and winterize, I suggest the "freebie" route. It builds good relations and solves your problem all at the same time.:)
     
  3. Think Green

    Think Green LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,746

    Naylor,
    Pendi will not degrade in aqueous solutions, however it will settle out in the tank if not agitated with jet or auger. Pendi is sensitive to light degredation and hydrolosis, so keep it mixed in a shaded tank away from warm water. pH factors are smaller!! The material bonds well to clay or organic matter, so unless your sprayer has soil in the water, it will stay active. (Read the label section on mixing,etc.) I don't leave pendi in my tanks overnight because of settling. I don't want this aqueous suspended powder staying in the pumps for too long. In my backpacks, it settles in the nozzle springs,etc. If you have sprayed this stuff for a while, then you will know what I mean!!

    When you are talking about disposal, how much are you talking about here?
    A small amount can be sprayed around your own home lawn or for someone else, just as Ted has offered you. When I am through for the day, I only have 8 gallons of mixture left. This goes on my lawn! I always would rather have a little too much than not enough to finish the route. Sometimes I will walk a little faster and not have enough.
    I keep records of how many gallons per customer and how much chemical per lawn it takes for the season. This way, I can regulate how many gallons to add to the tank and chemical each respective route. I don't want too much left over!!!!!
     
  4. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 11,765

    It settles out! Use it up soon. There must be someone who woould appreciate an extra free treatment.
     
  5. VARMIT COMMISSION

    VARMIT COMMISSION LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 547

    If I have extra in the tank overnight, I have a stiff bristled long handle broom that I will scrub the bottom of the tank with to resuspend it as I am adding water to the big tank the following day. I once let it settle out over night and started the pump and clogged my filter within seconds. I wash off the broom with new water refilling the tank and set the broom in a plastic 5 gallon bucket for the next use. Works for me.
     
  6. naylorman

    naylorman LawnSite Member
    Posts: 4

    Thanks so it doesn'nt harm the tank by being left in there three or four days?
     
  7. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,531

    Keep it parked under cover if in a poly tank. Agitate well and recirculate hose lines before use and you should be fine.
     
  8. Think Green

    Think Green LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,746

    Naylor,
    This stuff breaks into small shards similar to paint flakes. I have never been able to resuspend this stuff after it completely settles out. I don't care how much water is added or surfactant. Some of the ingredients will dissolve and resuspend but the remainder will get into the pump, the nozzle, the lines and everything. It isn't worth the extra time and effort to clean out the system. Do as you will, it is your time!!
     
  9. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 11,765

    Think green is right. I saw a company tank that had the stuff settle out--and it had blocked his return/agitation line. There was no bypass and their pump was powerful--it kept building up to 400 pounds pressure and they could not reduce it. It wasn't pretty.
     
  10. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 8,802

    I would find some people that would appreciate a free weed treatment. Any product that is not a clear liquid or emulsion retains its chemical properties, however reconstituting it into a sprayable form is another story. If it turns into paint flakes, then trying to spray it and use it is not the same, your AI is not going on the lawn, it is getting caught in the filters. For me, I do not mix what I am not going to use in one day. I avoid keeping a mix overnight.
     

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