Well since the previous post got negative replies let's try this. I can get a Scag Sabre with 130 hrs. demo for 12K plus tax, a Toro 25 Kubota for 9300 + tax, or a Bad boy 28Hp CAT for 12500 + tax. Lets hear some ups and downs of the mowers the quality of cut, reliability, and the all around mower. If possible i would like to see a pic of the turbo force cut and the bad boy cut. Never seen a good picture of either as far as cutting wuality.