Toro z master help

Discussion in 'Mechanic and Repair' started by TazLandscapes, Jul 27, 2009.

  1. Ctll

    Ctll LawnSite Member
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    on mine you can get to the reg from under engine carriage between the drive motors, I back the single wheel up a sevice ramp and slide under it so I can see what I am doing, might help you.
     
  2. TazLandscapes

    TazLandscapes LawnSite Member
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    I put a new battery in it today and all it does when i turn the key is click. i just bought a multimeter bought i do not know how to use the thing.is there something else i should look at

    mike
     
  3. Restrorob

    Restrorob LawnSite Fanatic
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    OK Mike,

    If I'm going to jump on this band wagon, I need both the model AND serial numbers off your unit along with the spec number off the engine so I can see exactly what you have.....
     
  4. TazLandscapes

    TazLandscapes LawnSite Member
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    Restrorob-the model #74183 and the serial #890750
     
  5. Restrorob

    Restrorob LawnSite Fanatic
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    I've looked your unit over, You say when you turn the key you get a click right ?

    Does it click with the key in the run position or the start position ?

    Where is the click coming from ?

    1) Under the control panel.
    2) Near the carb.
    3) Down at the starter.

    Also, What was the reason for putting a battery charger on the unit ?
     
  6. TazLandscapes

    TazLandscapes LawnSite Member
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    the click sounds like it is coming from the starter.and it clicks in both start and run position.The battery that was in it had been going dead for a while so one night i wanted to charge the battery so i can use it the next day and i put the charger cables on the battery wrong and when i turned the charger on it did a quick spark and its been a pita ever since.

    mike
     
  7. Restrorob

    Restrorob LawnSite Fanatic
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    It sounds like you have a couple problems, The charging system is one since you been having to charge the battery. The click you hear when turned to the run position should be the interlock system relay under the control panel, There may be a second click not heard from the fuel cut-off solenoid on the carb.

    If the click you hear at the starter is pretty loud I would venture to say hooking the charger up backwards did nothing to the starting system, It was just time for the starter solenoid to take a dump.

    But, Before you do anything else remove the negative battery cable from the unit frame and clean it well to make sure your getting a good ground.

    Then look closer at the starter.

    This engine came with a nippondenso starter, They were nothing but problems in just clicking as stated. Kohler has since went to Delco for starters and have been less troublesome.
     
  8. TazLandscapes

    TazLandscapes LawnSite Member
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    Restrorob i did everything you told me too. But its still clicking. whei looked at the starter it is a brand new one from Oct 2008. But i heard the top cylinder of the starter click. is that the solenoid.how hard would it be toreplace and where can i get one.or do i have to buy a new starter.

    mike
     
  9. Restrorob

    Restrorob LawnSite Fanatic
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    Since it's that new, If you can get the starter off easily (down inside the framework) try blowing it out good and lube it up, Bench test it before re-installing. If cleaning/lubing doesn't help check with NAPA auto parts, They have the whole starter for a little more than just the solenoid.
     
  10. TazLandscapes

    TazLandscapes LawnSite Member
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    What do you recommend to lube the starter up withand how do i go about doing a bench test. Sorry for the many questions never done this type of work before
     

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