ToroTime Master 30 vs. yBravo 25 vs. BOP Quickie 32 dually....?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Exact Rototilling, Apr 9, 2012.

  1. Exact Rototilling

    Exact Rototilling LawnSite Fanatic
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    Unlike many areas of the country mowing season has not really started here....yet. It’s been wet and cold. Many LCO’s are doing low mows and first clean up mows. Would not surprise me if we have another snow storm.

    1st impressions: I can see the plastic wheels cracking and breaking with hard use. Wife briefly used it it and found it relatively easy to use and yes that is part of the reason for buying it. Not sure if it is bad gas but this unit has been a bit temperamental to start and restart. I’m not the kind to run to the dealer when the wind blows so I will swap out the gas for ethanol free 92 octane before it goes back to their shop. Treated the gas with IPA to grab any water in the gas. Not terribly concerned or excited about it but I’m not going to waste my time or the dealers time unless I know for sure it is not fuel quality related.

    Really not much else to report but I don’t expect the T30 the match the cut quality of the Q32 with the stock Toro Atomic blades. The Q32 cut quality is excellent. As you can see the Q32 has high floatation tires and weighs less than 400 pounds and is dual hydro static. Currently the Q32 dually is my favorite mower and has the best selection of blades available that are plug and play of any BOP mower.
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  2. Valk

    Valk LawnSite Silver Member
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    Is your T30 electric start? Did you get it from a Toro Dealer or a bigbox store? Regap the sparkplug, fwiw.
     
  3. Exact Rototilling

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    Home Depot only has pull start only. Wife has bad shoulder so I went.electric start from dealer. Will check plug gap....good tip.
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  4. Valk

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    Am interested to hear your reviews once your season kicks into high gear.

    Does the T30 cut all the way up to 4.25" like a Toro SR4?
     
  5. Exact Rototilling

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    Manual says 4" but I will measure to confirm. Will cross confirm with SR4 as well.
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  6. Valk

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    It would be cool to view a shot down the row comparing overall lengths. How do they compare? They all look pretty close??
     
  7. Exact Rototilling

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    Will do...after it gets back from the shop. Ran the gas out of it and put in ethanol free gas issue basically persists. I suspect a carb adjustment issue...float level...:confused:

    Mower will start and run but requires fairly spirited recoil starting.

    This same engine on my Lawn Solutions aerator start easily....very easily. Sometimes it starts with out issue other times not.

    Toro won’t like this but I will be ordering some Oregon after market blades.
     
  8. Exact Rototilling

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    Haven’t taken the mower back to the dealer yet [hard starting] but I decided to mow my commercial exclusively with the T-30. Front was set at 1.5” back at 2”.

    Clippings are finely ground up. The mower handles well IMO. Very noticeable productivity bump up from using a yBravo 25 but the lack of higher lift blades for the T30....?

    I did a small clean up prune earlier in the day and the T30 simply lack the vacuum IMO to pick up debris. I was using my BOP Q32 with G6 gators and there was a night and day difference.

    I have mowed this entire property in damp conditions with my yBravo before and it took more time but conditions were vastly different.

    My general impression of the mower aside from other issues is if the Toro Timemaster can work in place of a 21” ....it will make the a 21” mower look like a time waster.

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  9. Exact Rototilling

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    Unless Toro releases some ultra lift blades for this mower ...the Toro 30 is zero.threat to the Ybravo 25 in any condition that involves damp or wet grass.

    Mower could be renamed Toro Clogmaster.

    I see this mower workimg for a homeowner who can wait for ideal conditions. Commercial cutter less than ideal conditions....with the stock blades absolutely not in my conditions. This Toro clogs much worse than any BOP Quick mower with the old low lift blades. I have all 3 BOP deck sizes ...I should know.

    I have other unauthorized blades on order. I hope some other Balde combo worsks. I Like the feel and.handling of the.mower but f I'm unable to find better blades I don't see.it working out. :(
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  10. fatboynormmie

    fatboynormmie LawnSite Bronze Member
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    ExactRototilling you have posted alot of good things about the YBRAVO 25 and I would like to get my hands on one but the small unestablished company scares me .Ive been down the BOP road and been burned.Seems theres a good market for a light 30"ish cut commercial mower hopefully the BIG manufacturers are listening .
     

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