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Transformer not rated for .....

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by Zohan, Apr 28, 2012.

  1. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,645

    lighting in any kind of water is tricky and difficult to guess even with pictures and experience. once you have the properly rated trans ( and I would also make sure you are on a 100% functioning GFCI outlet on top of that) then the best way is to take your fixtures and try them in different positions at night with the waterfall going. you'll get wet, so try to do it on a warmer night with polyester athlete ( under armor or others ) type clothing. it drys pretty fast.
     
  2. Zohan

    Zohan LawnSite Member
    Posts: 136

    Thank you for the tips...If you're interested i'll keep you posted
     
  3. Zohan

    Zohan LawnSite Member
    Posts: 136

  4. Zohan

    Zohan LawnSite Member
    Posts: 136

    Never mind....
     
  5. S&MLL

    S&MLL LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 751

  6. Zohan

    Zohan LawnSite Member
    Posts: 136

  7. S&MLL

    S&MLL LawnSite Senior Member
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    Okay I will try to make this easy. Anytime you have a fixture in water by nec it must use a ul listed trans for ponds and spas. But the kicker is companies like Kichler and Focus and whoever else do not make fixtures rated for human contact. So say your customer has a koi pond and they want light. then you can use all the underwater lights and use a trans rated for water. but If it has human contact (pool,waterfall into pool, waterfall into hot tub) then you need the proper fixture. And the link you posted with the 40 dollar diy junk is not that. I know it says rated for pools but somehow I highly doubt that. Maybe a pool a human doesn't swim in :hammerhead:

    Like I said earlier jandy,pentair and a bunch of others make fixtures rated for pools (generally speaking they get installed in a niche) There are a few companies that make 12volt fixtures rated for human contact. I believe one of them is Nexxan or Nixxen. I also believe they carry a list price that exceeds $800 a fixture.

    Send me your number via a private message. Might be easier to explain over the phone
     
  8. Zohan

    Zohan LawnSite Member
    Posts: 136

    I do get it now, sorry for confusion....i am abondoning idea of putting lights into waterfall, i will probably put next to waterfall shining in, and hope it looks good...but in doing this it looks like i cant use the kichler trans, its rated submersible but not pool/spa.
    Im going back onsite tomorrow to check it out again
    Thanks for the help
     
  9. S&MLL

    S&MLL LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 751

    http://www.illuminfx.com/


    Many of us have used it. Fiberstars has full blown LED models now Maybe one day AJ will to. But the 150watt halide still packs a great punch
     
  10. Zohan

    Zohan LawnSite Member
    Posts: 136

    Thanks, but the project is sold at the proposed amount...can you pm me with approx. cost for that
     

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