Tricks to seat a small tubeless tire??

Discussion in 'Mechanic and Repair' started by jjmtechnologies, Mar 20, 2012.

  1. jjmtechnologies

    jjmtechnologies LawnSite Member
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    I have a Pro-Sulky with 4.10-4 tubeless tires purchased new last fall.

    For some reason one of the tires went completely flat over the winter and of course came unseated from the rim.

    In the past with this small wheels (maybe not quite this small) I have been able to wrap a rope around the tread to force the tire to expand and contact both sides of the rim. Give it a good shot of air and good to go. No such luck with this little critter. I even tried cinching it harder with a ratchet strap, but no go.

    I am using a homeowner type Sears compresser. I am wondering if I need to take this to a tire shop where they can give it a shot of high volume air while they wiggle the tire around to get it close enough to seat.

    Any oither ideas on what I can try before I go for professional help?

    I've heard of an old (military?) trick using a shot of starting fluid and a lighter, but that sounds insane.
  2. hvlawncare

    hvlawncare LawnSite Member
    from yessir
    Posts: 7

    I have the same tires on my sulker for my John Deere Walk Behind.

    If anything, I would try setting it down, make sure the bottom side is against the bead first. Use a flat head tool, or a hook and pry up on the top side of the tire bead and pump it full of air. It sounds difficult but its your best shot before trying the ether trick....

    Ether it will or Ether it won't. Good Luck
  3. FYS777

    FYS777 LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,305

    the starting fluid works, you don't have to use much. and then put air in it before it cools. :):)
  4. hdtvluvr

    hdtvluvr LawnSite Senior Member
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    Tighten a strap around the center of the diameter of the tire so the sides will squish out. Then add some air, remove the strap and finish filling with air.

    Now, I finish reading your post and see that you've tried this.:hammerhead:
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2012
  5. rob7233

    rob7233 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 861

    A strap is what I've used in the past but even a rope tied around the outside circumference of the tire to be tightened by twisting a stick would work.
    The idea is to mash the bead down evenly around the rim while you inflate.
  6. tnpete

    tnpete LawnSite Member
    from West Tn
    Posts: 180

    X3 on the small rope and twist stick. Works every-time, aired up 2 this am this way.
  7. wanabe

    wanabe LawnSite Senior Member
    from So. IL
    Posts: 943

    First thing you need to do is go get a can of bead sealer and coat the rim where the tire seats.
  8. jjmtechnologies

    jjmtechnologies LawnSite Member
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    Thx guys. I think I'll give up on the strap as it buckles/deforms the tire enough so it doesn't form to the bead well.

    I'll try the rope with a stick and if that doesn't work I'll get some bead sealer and see if that gives me enough of a seal to get some air into this bad boy.

    Hate it when what should be simple stuff like this kicks my butt.....
  9. wanabe

    wanabe LawnSite Senior Member
    from So. IL
    Posts: 943

    The bead sealer will keep the tire glued to the wheel so this won't happen again. You need to do this to these small tires.
  10. piston slapper

    piston slapper LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,245

    The only time I use bead sealer is on rusted or pitted rims.
    I use a clipon hands free air chuck and 130 psi of air.
    Spray dilluted dishsoap on the tire and rim and collapse the tire to the rim by hand.

    Restrorob posted the easiest way to seat tires awhile back......somewhere in this forum.
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