truck purchase - GAS or DIESEL?

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by A1 Grass, Mar 17, 2003.

  1. jsr2741

    jsr2741 LawnSite Senior Member
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    02 Cummins, 5 speed, 3:55 gears, 4 inch straight exhaust, afe air filter and I'm getting 20.6 mpg the last time I checked.

    The nice thing about the diesel is the more performance parts you put on the better the fuel mileage to a point.

    Also like I said before my friends 95 psd is getting about 20-21 and thats with an auto and 3:73 gears.
     
  2. KirbysLawn

    KirbysLawn Millenium Member
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  3. Randy J

    Randy J LawnSite Bronze Member
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    In addition to the $100/month payment, you'd better budget some for repairs - given that you're only planning on spending $7000 - $8000 for the truck. That money will get you a 5 - 10 year old truck with 100,000+ miles, depending on whether you want 4X4 or not. While the diesel engine will be good much longer than 100,000 miles, any truck that age will need maintenance. Although I've done nothing but brakes to my '98 Dodge with 145,000 miles (worth about $15,000 though, and I've babied it since 30,000 miles), I just had to put a fuel pump on my '97 F350 Powerstroke (worth about $8500, one owner before me - worked but not abused) with 165,000 miles. Cost was $455 - ouch! Since you plan on a Ford, the things you will need to be concerned about when purchasing one are: fuel leaks, water pump, dual mass flywheel - make sure it's been replaced with a normal flywheel, injectors and glow plugs. And of course, check the suspension closely.
    I still think a diesel is the better option, but you need to take possible repairs into consideration also when budgeting. Good luck with whatever you decide.

    Randy

    Edit: Forget to mention - 1998 Dodge 4X4 quad cab, loaded - 17 - 19 mpg. 1997 Ford F350 dually flatbed 2X4 - 15 mpg.
     
  4. John DiMartino

    John DiMartino LawnSite Silver Member
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    Diesel all the way. If you can only afford a high mileage/older truck,then you better buy a Dodge. The Cummins engine is the better engine,it has much fewer problems,its much easier to service than the powerstroke,and parts are much,much cheaper. A bad load of fuel in a powerstroke could cost you more than the truck is worth in injectors and an inj pump. id get a 5 speed manual if posible,less to go wrong,and you never know how the auto was treated ,so it could go out at any time.If you can afford a newer truck,id consider the PSD or the Cummins.
     
  5. Brickman

    Brickman LawnSite Bronze Member
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    My 2000 F 250 PSD with a 6 speed and 3.73 gears gets around 16 on the road and 8 and 9 pulling hard. I am running a 75 HP upgrade chip, and drive hard almost all the time. It is a well known fact that if I can get those kinds of numbers then some one that would drive like an adult would be able to do better. :D
     
  6. Heavenly Green

    Heavenly Green LawnSite Member
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    Ive gotten real lucky with my diesel trucks. I own a 85 & 87 F250s The 85 has a 6.9 international harvester with 134,000 miles and runs great we get 16-18 mpg loaded or unloaded. The 87 has the 6.9 Navistar with 185,000 we get 18-20 mpg. I love these trucks they will run forever we paid $1200. for the 85 but it sat for almost a year before we bought it so I had to put a fuel injector pump in it and replace the glowplugs and it had some fuel leaks that we repaired so I now have a total of $2500 in the truck but its given us 16,000 miles now with nothing more than oil changes every 3000 miles. The 87 we paid $2000. and havent had to repair anything. The bodys have some rust but we are in the proccess of replacing the bad body parts and repainting. when were all done these trucks should look respectable and pull trailers for many more years. Illl never buy anything but diesel.
     
  7. SWD

    SWD LawnSite Senior Member
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    Just bought a '97 Ford F350 PSD, 122K miles, auto, crew cab for 13.5.
    I checked the truck over very closely for items of concern (some mentioned in a previous post), and spotted no obvious problems.
    I received the original owners manual with the truck and the older gentleman that owned the truck, traded it in - I haven't determined why. This guy took religious notes on maintenance!
    All 7 tires match and are with in 10k miles of new. Interior is in excellent shape as well.
    Reason for the purchase: my '85 F250 with a carbed 460 caught fire and burn't to a crisp. And this was just days after spending 14 grand on new mowers and trailers.
    After 5-7 mpg with my F250, the 15-20 with the PSD is a welcome change.
    A big plus, the dually looks like a professional turf truck and the color is close to Gravely red as well.
    Sorry about the story - I quess your answer is 15 - 20 depending on where I am and what I am pulling.
     
  8. Thompson Lawns

    Thompson Lawns LawnSite Member
    from OK
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    Like everyone else said, stay away from the older chevy diesels, cant go wrong with the power stroke or the cummins (the cummins will long outlast the truck)....If you are going to buy a gas motor though I would probably go with the chevy...good luck!
     
  9. snowplowjay

    snowplowjay LawnSite Member
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    TURBO DIESEL all the way


    Jay
     

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