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Truck / Trailer Combo Licensing Requirements

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by DVS Hardscaper, Jul 20, 2009.

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  1. Duffster

    Duffster LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Midwest
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    This was posted from the Florida Handbook in a previous thread here on LS, it has the same chart I posted.

    http://www.lawnsite.com/showpost.php?p=2776369&postcount=19
     
  2. fl-landscapes

    fl-landscapes LawnSite Silver Member
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    everything on this thread has been posted on this site before.....whats your point. I was just backing up your statement. Guess I should have just advised you that this has been covered more than once on this site as well:dizzy:
     
  3. Duffster

    Duffster LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Midwest
    Posts: 1,193

    Sorry, the way that your class A definition is worded I thought you were backing up DVS.

    I realize this has been covered before but obviously a least one person still don't get it and that person is giving bad advice.
     
  4. Mid-Ohio Scaper

    Mid-Ohio Scaper LawnSite Member
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    Who Needs a CDL? – Ohio Revised Code, Section 4506.01 (D)

    You need a CDL if you operate any of the following vehicles:

    1.

    Any combination of vehicles with a combined gross vehicle weight rating of twenty-six thousand one pounds or more, provided the gross vehicle weight rating of the vehicle or vehicles being towed is in excess of ten thousand pounds;
    2.

    Any single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of twenty-six thousand one pounds or more, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle having a gross vehicle weight rating that is not in excess of ten thousand pounds;
    3.

    Any single vehicle or combination of vehicles that is not a class A or class B vehicle, but that either is designed to transport sixteen or more passengers including the driver;
    4.

    Any school bus with a gross vehicle weight rating of less than twenty-six thousand one pounds that is designed to transport fewer than sixteen passengers including the driver;
    5.

    Is transporting hazardous materials for which placarding is required under subpart F of 49 C.F.R. part 172;
    6.

    Any single vehicle or combination of vehicles that is designed to be operated and to travel on a public street or highway and is considered by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration to be a commercial motor vehicle, including, but not limited to, a motorized crane, a vehicle whose function is to pump cement, a rig for drilling wells, and a portable crane.

    Classes of CDL licenses – Ohio Revised Code, Section 4506.12 (B)

    The classes of CDL and the commercial motor vehicles that they authorize the operation of are as follows:

    1.

    Class A – any combination of vehicles with a combined gross vehicle weight rating of twenty-six thousand one pounds or more, if the gross vehicle weight rating of the vehicle or vehicles being towed is in excess of ten thousand pounds.
    2.

    Class B – any single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of twenty-six thousand one pounds or more or any such vehicle towing a vehicle having a gross vehicle weight rating that is not in excess of ten thousand pounds.
    3.

    Class C – any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that is not a Class A or Class B vehicle, but that is designed to transport sixteen or more passengers, including the driver, or is transporting hazardous materials in an amount requiring placarding, or any school bus with a gross vehicle weight rating of less than twenty-six thousand one pounds that is designed to transport fewer than sixteen passengers including the driver.


    So let me get this straight, I drive a F350 with a GVWR of 13,000lbs and have a goose neck dump trailer with a GVWR of 14,000lbs equaling 27,000lbs (combo weight).
    If I'm understanding these laws correctly, when I join these two together I do in fact need a class A because I've exceeded the 26,001lb mark?
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2009
  5. Duffster

    Duffster LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Midwest
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    Correct

    Because the combo is over 26k, not because the trailer is over 10k like the OP stated.
     
  6. Mid-Ohio Scaper

    Mid-Ohio Scaper LawnSite Member
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    That's what I've always been told............
     
  7. wurkn with amish

    wurkn with amish LawnSite Senior Member
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    I don't see why you even need to argue about it. If you don't believe DEVIOUS then don't believe him. If and when you get pulled over and they ticket for the very thing your aguing about, then get your CDL (class A) whatever.....
    Im personally going to make a few phone calls tomorrow and see what I need- because I want to upgrade trailors.
     
  8. burnthecouch

    burnthecouch LawnSite Member
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    We had one of our trucks get pulled over a few years ago while I was still working for another company, and they were ticketed for having a trailer over the 10,001 limit. The trailer had dual 6,000lb axle and was rated for 12,000, while not in excess of that 12,000 limit, it was over the limit for having a non CDL driver.

    So it can and will happen in PA. It doesn't matter what you are pulling it with if the trailer goes over the magic limit of 10,001 you need a CDL period.

    I currently have my 14,000 dump trailer de-rated and registered at 9,999 which kills me for usable payload but keeps me legal as I haven't had a chance to get my CDL yet being a one man show right now.
     
  9. fl-landscapes

    fl-landscapes LawnSite Silver Member
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    This thread is being beat to death but the trailer weight can not exceed 10,000 lbs or you need a class "A" lis. I have a class B cdl so I can drive a straight truck regardless of what it weighs. now if I hook a trailer to it I am good as long as the trailer does not exceed 10,000 lbs. The combo weight can be anything. Lets say I'm driving a tri axle mack with gvw 68,000 lbs and I tow a small trailer under 10K then I am fine. If the trailer weight is 10,001 or more I am screwed without a class A lis.
     
  10. Duffster

    Duffster LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Midwest
    Posts: 1,193

    What where you pulling the trailer with? (GVWR)
     
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