Unique's Manufacturing Process

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by nate mullen, Dec 19, 2007.

  1. Lite4

    Lite4 LawnSite Gold Member
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    Thanks Nate,
    That post was very incitefull. It is amazing that anybody can do business in this country anymore. What have we come too.

    I also agree about that article in print for a handout, it would go well with the end consumer to illuminate them about the whole manufacturing process.
     
  2. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    great post nate. I do like 90% of what I have used from unique so far. I cursed up and down that I could not fit my lens retainer clips inside the lunars tho on my last project. All in all its a very well rounded product line and nothing I have seen yet has been of questional quality except for Joey himself :)

    I still cant convert to the dark side and do all 12ga yet tho. Im kicking myself now for doing it on a project and had to dig in another line because I felt my design was comprimised when I could not add a few more lights to a hub. Cheaper to run a single 10ga than 2 strips of 12 for 210w
     
  3. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
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    Thanks for kicking my nuts into my throat there BUDDY!!! LOL:dizzy::drinkup:

    As for the print version of this I agree and will have it done. I will make an attachment to d-load for you guys to print but i will also have some officially printed here to start sending out!!

    Joey D.
     
  4. nate mullen

    nate mullen LawnSite Member
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    The only reason Joey's around is my wife likes him.

    You won't get any aguments out of me on that one. Just be careful on the connection that you use, a lot of the connections are only rated for 10 amps. and also not rated for that many wires under 1 connector.

    we will have a 24 volt lighting systems vary soon.................you will than never need 10 or 8 and you will we able to put 384 watts on 12/2. for all of you that are going to freak out about over 15 volts ( 1838) I ask you this ...........why is it ok and legal to install 120 volt lighting in landscaping.
     
  5. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
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    Ok Nate, please explain 348 watts on 12/2 wire. I think it would be good for everyone to know how you come up with those numbers. Why not 192 watts max?
     
  6. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
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    What is this, bash on Joey day?! LOL...Wait until I tell your wife about the poker game last night!!! Christmas Shopping huh??? LOL

    Paul, I will let Nate explain it, this 24v system is his baby and I dont want to spoil it. And after that last comment from him I think I will take the rest of the day off.

    Joey D.
     
  7. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I am probably 1 of 3 people on this board who still insist on soldering connections. I didnt know there was an amerage limit on solder since your esentially only limited by the wires capacity and what will fit in your grease tubes.

    If your planning to use 24v just so you can run further I would assume install another trans rather than bury a quarter mile of wire. I know its cheaper to run the 12 ga 1000 ft and shoot 24v down it than it is to install line voltage out there but just because its more cost effective doesnt mean its the best way.

    Since your brain storming come up with a 1 1/4" chase for the iforce and an 1120 watt model :) would of made me use 3 of em this past week.
     
  8. nate mullen

    nate mullen LawnSite Member
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    amps x volts............20 amp wire x 12 volts = 240 watts x 80% = 192

    amps x volts............. 20 amps wire 24 volts = 480 watts x 80% = 384

    amps x volts............. 20 amps wire 120 volts = 2400 watts x 80% 1920

    all on the same size wire that why a 24 volt lighting system will be great for all of us
     
  9. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Maybe not all of us Nate... A 24V "Landscape Lighting", "Garden Lighting", or "Low Voltage Outdoor Lighting" system is not going to fly here in Canada. Im sure you read the reasons why a few days ago.

    Electrical components must be approved for the application in which they are installed / used.

    Have a great day.
     
  10. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    are you talking about 24v lamps and everything ? so you will be selling us 30v taps ? I also assume the price will be higher. so will it still make us more money ?
     

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