Up Sizing or Down Sizing What are you plans?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Green Finger, Oct 11, 2008.

  1. Green Finger

    Green Finger LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 839

    With the uncertain flux in the market and the housing mess. How many of you guys are planning to upsize or downsize.

    I know I'm going to get a ztr and proberly hire a part time helper for next year. But I'm going used equipment or making sure everything is paid off during the winter. I am also implementing a new plan.....


    PAY AS YOU GO. no monthly billing:weightlifter:

    That will keep the cashflow flowing and get rid of the deadbeat customers
    Reducing overhead.

    What are your future plans.
     
  2. Flex-Deck

    Flex-Deck LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,846

    I am not changing size, but will need about 60 more acres next year since I will be full time mowing only. We mow 240 acres now, with a three person crew - me on a X595, and the other two on X495's, and to fill up a good 5-6 day week, we need more acres. The only reason it worked so well this year is that I had to spend 8:00 am to about 1:00 pm at the job I am retiring from.
    With the ability to run from sunup to dusk every day will mean we need to find more acres.
     
  3. djchiodo3

    djchiodo3 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 345

    (South Florida) I plan on staying the same size. Good advice on paying down debt. Of coarse, I won't turn down any offers for bids if they are in my working area. I sub all tree work out. If I want to generate more cash flow I can start trimming my trees again.
     
  4. FIRESCOOBY

    FIRESCOOBY LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 981

    Staying the same...I hope anyway!! I want to purchase a compact tractor and expand into other things, but I'll probably wait until there is a sign of economic improvement.

    I had a chance to purchase a New Holland LS180 (2004) with 200 hours for $10,500 a few weeks ago. I'm already regretting not getting it, just wanted to keep as much money in savings as possible right now. Luckily everything listed below is paid for. I've tried to re-invest as much as possible into the business to pay everything off.
     
  5. J&R Landscaping

    J&R Landscaping LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 5,096

    I've been adding several accounts late in the year right now. Hope to have some more growth before the season is over. Looking to have a employee next season with hopefully some more growth. We'll see what happens!
     
  6. FIRESCOOBY

    FIRESCOOBY LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 981

    I'm going to do some more direct target advertising this winter/ early Spring. Have to be careful though because our second child is due in mid-April (great timing huh). My first priority will be that child and family, so I don't want to load my plate too heavily because that is when I really start ramping up with clean-ups and aerations.
     
  7. JShe8918

    JShe8918 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 941

    I plan on advertising heavily in my area and instill my name into peoples mind so that when spring comes around and they see their grass turning green they know who to call. I want to upsize to about 50-100 yards. I currently run 27.... don't laugh... I live in a small town of 5500. I have the equipment just not the yards...
     
  8. yard_smart

    yard_smart LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 590

    My plans exactly !!!

    If you own a business you should never be looking to down size. Businesses are supposed to grow. At what rate they grow is a different entity in its self but they must grow. I have already started on my marketing plan for next year and have about 70% of my marketing budget complete. I do more than just mow so I try to maximize ever dollar out of my customers. I will still bill out monthly because I don't feel like putting up with that accounting head ache every week. I am looking to add more resi yards next year . . . prolly another 20 to 30. Right now I have a city contract and an industrial contract that are grossing close to 2k a month but want to do 75k gross next year (my second year in business) and since lawn care is 42% of my dollars so far this year that means i need to increase my gross dollars on average to $2625.00 per month! i better get to hustling!!!!

    Good luck to every one next year
     
  9. davis45

    davis45 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 985

    If all goes as planned we will be adding 2 guys and another truck. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, so who know. Still taking lawn accounts but going to market big for landscaping and pavers next season. Currently talking to a Real Estate agent about a property forsale to start building a shop this winter and stop running out of my garage.
     
  10. ed2hess

    ed2hess LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 13,142

    Surprised you can find anybody that will pay as you go.....must be an older crowd of customers. .
     

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