URGENT: Need help finding 80" + cut

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by PerfiCut L&L, Mar 8, 2006.

  1. PerfiCut L&L

    PerfiCut L&L LawnSite Senior Member
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    I have an opportunity to obtain a large contract for a number of public schools in my area, however, among the minimum equipment requirements is a mower with a cutting width of at least 80", or a combination of mowers attached to a single machine.

    Can anyone suggest something?
     
  2. meets1

    meets1 LawnSite Gold Member
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    WAM. Only way to go. I run two - each unit is a toro with a 10.5 deck. Productive, easy to use, realiable, plenty of power.

    Others will probably say buy a big Z with a 72 deck, that might work as well. Or if you have a small tractor, use a pull behind mower off your 3 point and PTO. I have done this as well, works great but I never thought the cut was as nice.

    Either way good luck with the contract and hope you find something that works for you.
     
  3. lawncare3

    lawncare3 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Yup wam. plus their fun (but not when working for GV)
     
  4. jtkplc

    jtkplc LawnSite Silver Member
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  5. LwnmwrMan22

    LwnmwrMan22 LawnSite Platinum Member
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    How soon do you need to know??
     
  6. lawnmaniac883

    lawnmaniac883 LawnSite Silver Member
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    Deere makes a WAM as well as toro.
     
  7. LwnmwrMan22

    LwnmwrMan22 LawnSite Platinum Member
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    The problem with the Deere, is that you have one deck out the front, with two on the sides, about in the middle of the mower.

    You have issues when mowing into corners, because you're not able to mow all the way into the corner. The middle deck in the front hits the wall / edge of turf area before the side deck can mow all the way up the right or left side.

    It's the same situation as the Toro 455.

    If you're looking for a WAM, look for a Toro 4100. You CAN find them used, in fact I think MEETS1 might have had one he was thinking about moving.

    Anyways, I also use a 45 hp Kubota tractor with an 11' tri-deck pull behind mower. It works well, plus you can use the tractor in other situations.

    Either way, unless you find something used, you're looking about $35k, more for a new Toro WAM, plus a trailer to haul it on.

    A self contained WAM, whether it's Toro, John Deere, Jacobson, Hustler, whoever, is nicer, since you can fit it on a 24' trailer and still have room for one or two ZTRs.

    The tractor w/ tri-deck mower behind takes up all of a 24' trailer itself, meaning you have to have another truck / trailer to get the ZTRs / wb's to the site.
     
  8. PerfiCut L&L

    PerfiCut L&L LawnSite Senior Member
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    I need this info by Friday morning. Preferably this eve, so that I can run some numbers tomorrow.

    The projects require a single mower of 80" or larger cut, and two 60" or similar mowers. Plus a few other smaller mowers and items.

    I have everything needed except the larger 80" cut mower.

    Im thinking of a tractor of some sort with a mower attachment, this way I can use the tractor for other projects as well. However, as someone mentioned, this will require an independant trailer, and a dedicated truck to haul it. I dont think at this point I want to commit to that. So maybe some sort of self contained mower/zero turn type might work. However, probably not going to get it and two 60" mowers onto a single trailer either.

    Going to have to re-think this. Perhaps a cheap beater truck / trailer could be in the plans.

    Keep the suggestions coming though, the more info the better.
     
  9. impactlandscaping

    impactlandscaping LawnSite Silver Member
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    How many acres of turf are you going to be using the 80+" deck on each week? I would look at cost options of the WAM compared to the amount of the contract, and the terms in years and payment schedule of the contract as well. If the numbers don't allow a 30-40K purchase, and the main acreage isn't too much of the main part of the mowing, I'd get a 72" Diesel Z and add a flex deck to it. If you are going to rely on the 80+ mower for more than 30% of the account, I'd look into a WAM if $$ allows.JMO:waving:
     
  10. LwnmwrMan22

    LwnmwrMan22 LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Along the lines of impact's post, if you're not going to get this contract for a minimum of 3 years, OR if you don't have anywhere else to use a large mower, then just pass.

    There's no reason to sink $20+k into a mowing setup for an account, even if it's $40k, just for one year, then lose it and try to sell everything the following year.

    What size trailer are you running now??

    I can put a Toro 4100 on the trailer with (2) 60" ZTRs, but that's on a 24' flatbed, 8.5' wide, 14k gvw. You're looking at another $5-6k if you don't already have a trailer like this.
     

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