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Walk behind verses Zero turn. I have a question?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by blake101, Apr 26, 2011.

  1. blake101

    blake101 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 450

    I have a Walk behind Turf Tracer HP 48 in cut, and I would like to have a 52 in Lazer Z Zero Turn, My question is, Is it worth the price difference, Can you do more yards with the Zero Turn and do you have less fatigue at the end of the day? I think it would be nice to be able to sit down and rest your feet while mowing. Tell me your experience.
     
  2. ashgrove landscaping

    ashgrove landscaping LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,446

    You will most likely be faster after you learn how to operate it efficiently. You will definitely be less fatigued at the end of the day and will also be a faster trimmer.
     
  3. Darryl G

    Darryl G LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 8,033

    Well I actually have both those machines...a 48 inch Turf Tracer and a 52 Lazer Z HP. I have a catering sulky on the Tracer. I actually use the Tracer more than the rider and can make better time on a lot of my lawns (half acre and smaller I'd say) with it due to easier maneuvering and faster turns. But for the bigger lawns and for bagging, the Lazer wins hands down. And yes, it's less tiring overall but my back like the Tracer better.
     
  4. DoetschOutdoor

    DoetschOutdoor LawnSite Bronze Member
    from S. IL
    Posts: 1,818

    I have a 52 ferris wb and a 48 lazer ztr and it just comes down to the yards...on the bigger accounts nothing beats sitting down and just ripping through the grass even tho my ztr is 4 inches smaller cut its still faster wide open. But on the postage size lawns its much easier to get on the walk behind and zip around the small ones. As far as fatigue, for me again it comes down to the yards. I have a few big accounts that are rough as can be and you get beat up no matter what mower your on. But head to head on the small to medium lawns, the fatigue level is equal for me when comparing ride behind to zero turn. I like having both!
     
  5. phscotty

    phscotty LawnSite Member
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  6. Darryl G

    Darryl G LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 8,033

    And that's a castering sulky I have, not a catering one, lol...Bullrider. Actually it will operate in both caster and trailering modes. I think the newer ones are single mode.

    Yes, I like having both as well. For some lawns I "cut in" with the Tracer first and then get on the Z. The main thing to me that would make it hard for me to do without the Z is the rear vacuum bagger...so much better than a grass catcher! No I don't bag a lot, but when I do it's sweet.
     
  7. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 21,654

    No, no, no, and no.

    Sorry, but much like yourself I started out with Toro Wb's and thought just like you,
    every day I would dream about how nice it must be to have a Z...
    Well, not every day.

    But I could not have been more mistaken.

    1. The Ztr can mow faster but the increase in the cost of the machine makes it more expensive to run,
    I believe it actually costs so much more to run a Z that the Wb is more cost-effective on most anything under an acre.
    1b. Acre+ lots are not easy to come by, every Lco with a Z is after them.

    2. I am just as tired, riding a velke is just as comfortable as that seat because it's still a bumpy ride and it wears me out all the same.

    3. You can NOT do every yard with it, and again it costs money to run them, the truck eats more fuel while it's on your trailer and is harder to drive plus you might want to go a little bit slower too (you almost have to, the weight alone holds my 3/4 tons 5.9L V8 Magnum back), so it is costing you time and money in ways you can't even see.

    4. It's a dang status symbol, is what it is, for show and tell, to say you have one.

    To me a Ztr is not a real tool in terms of what mows lawn the best for the money,
    rather it's a fracking LTS Elite Super Ueber XRT loaded device that consumes
    fuel at a rate just as fast as your car but in the end what do you get out of it?
    Not even more respect from customers.
    Not even that.

    What you get is ...
    You get to pay 8, 9 or 10 thousand dollars to figure out that what I told you is so.
    If I could do it all over again, I am not so sure I would have bought one.
     
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2011
  8. SNAPPER MAN

    SNAPPER MAN LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,443

    I agree 100%. Also customers that have never complained before will begin to complain how your big heavy mower is tearing up their yard. I don't care hoe good of an operator you are, a ztr is hell on a yard compared to a wb.
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  9. JDiepstra

    JDiepstra LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,511

    Fatigue? You wimps get tired cutting grass? Get a desk job, losers!
     
  10. Southern Pride

    Southern Pride LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Memphis
    Posts: 1,382

    This thread bring some relief. I use nothing but walk behinds actually, and I don't get very fatigued at all. I often wonder if a z would be that much better...and a few of you have answered that for me.
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