Walker or Grasshopper?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by KS_Grasscutter, Jun 17, 2008.

  1. KS_Grasscutter

    KS_Grasscutter LawnSite Gold Member
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    Ok, so if this deal goes through, I'm gonna need another mower. I have narrowed it down to Walker and Grasshopper. I either want a MTGHS 48" or a 723 48", with a grass catcher. They will be about the same price really, maybe slightly more for the Grasshopper. The Walker will get into more gates, but I'll still either need my 42" Walker, or a 40" or so WB. The Grasshopper would be nice to put a snow plow or areavator on, while the Walker High Dump seems like the way to go too. I just cant decide, and I am NOT gonna buy one of each :laugh:

    I bag 90% of the time, but the other 10% would be nice to have the option to S.D., without changing decks (and buying the other deck).

    Also, anyone got a used one of either of these they wanna get rid of? The closer to here, the better.
     
  2. Mowingman

    Mowingman LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Texas
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    The Walker will be way more expensive than the Grasshopper. I believe the high-dump option is around $2000.00 installed, not including the cost of the Walker.
    I ran both types in my operation. The Walker is great for smaller lawns and smooth ground. The Grasshopper works great on the larger properties and can handle rougher ground conditions than the Walker. The Walker requires a LOT more routine maintenance than the Grasshopper. Both have their place. You just need to decide which best fits your needs.
     
  3. Jason Rose

    Jason Rose LawnSite Fanatic
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    mowingman: Have you priced either lately? Grasshopper mowers are INSANELY expensive. I'd bet that they are close to the top on the price scale. A 223 midmount, with a 2 bag catcher is actually MORE EXPENSIVE than a MTGHS 23 hp walker! And if you want to look at the front mount Grasshoppers, well you better open the wallet for almost 2 grand more.

    The hi-dump for the walker is $3,000, and that's only if you either buy it and install it yourself of order the machine from the factory with it. If you want it installed by the dealer (at least out dealer) it's about $3,800 with tax and everything.

    Walker- Small compact size for the width of cut, requires slower mowing speeds to give a quality cut all the time. Harder to dump clippings into a truck bed unless you have the $3+ grand for a dump. MUCH more maintenance.

    Grasshopper- Well built, cuts great in almost all conditions, dosn't like dewey grass though. Faster mowing speeds. Only a few grease zerks, engine is much more accessable for maintenance. Whole machine is MUCH larger though. Limits access into tight lawns and through gates.
     
  4. nosparkplugs

    nosparkplugs LawnSite Gold Member
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    I would get the Walker, The grasshoppers are big mowers, you'll find the grasshopper sitting on your trailer more than you may think. The Walker accepts all the attachments you want, and it's GHS system is internal not external. Every time I think I need another fast mid-mount, or large diesel front mower, I realize that a Walkers compact size, GHS, 11 decks, makes/gives it the ability to fit into small area's, and large area both. I just cannot bring myself to purchase anything else now I still an amazed a what the Walkers can do, it's the only ZTR I've owned that makes this fun again.
     
  5. Mowingman

    Mowingman LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Texas
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    Last time I checked at our local Walker dealer, that Walker was close $10,000.00. The Grasshopper was about $1000.00 less. I know everyone is going up on prices, so you are probably correct now.
     
  6. Jason Rose

    Jason Rose LawnSite Fanatic
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    Around here, the 223 Grasshopper with catcher and the MTGHS 23 hp walker are the same price. $9,200.00, plus tax of course.

    Of course it's not comparing apples to apples, because the 223 is a 52" cut and the walker is a 48". You can get the 52" GHS deck for the walker, but there's mixed reviews as to how well it actually works...
     
  7. KS_Grasscutter

    KS_Grasscutter LawnSite Gold Member
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    Yup... the 223 is like $9,200 and the 723 is $12,400 or so. Looks like when I upgrade, I'll be getting a new Walker.

    Too bad I can't afford a high dump like yours :(
     
  8. nosparkplugs

    nosparkplugs LawnSite Gold Member
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    Jason,

    You have to put all the "mixed" reviews "high" prices out of the equation; regardless of the mower you choose. The Walkers compact size/maneuverability makes any advantage another mower has negated. I was at the Scag Walker dealer today looking at the Turf Tiger, and after all my attempts to justify a sweat Scag TT 61" Mid-Mount purchase, I find myself back looking at a higher HP Walker & 2 additional decks always now. When I'm purchasing a new ZTR Price is second to function, I believe you pay for what you get, and yes some mowers at a lower price are great machines, but I don't think expensive machines are overrated either if they make you money. My passion about the Walkers is based on my early unwillingness to accept that the Walkers are really that good of a mower. I look back wondering what if i would have purchased one sooner, all the money I have wasted on trying to find the right mower for us.
     
  9. atasteofnature

    atasteofnature LawnSite Senior Member
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    my brother in-law just bought his 48" walker for $10,000 and it stripes nice. I know he showed me the book and it has so many attachment. I could also see how that mower would not be good for big yards. He just mows average size yards and small lake yards. I have noticed a lot of company around seem to have a walker now. I know I am looking to buy a company and he owns ferris and I know I like what ferris has to offer but that is just me. Good luck with everything and have a good season.
     
  10. justgreen

    justgreen LawnSite Member
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    I just purchased a walker GHS with the 26 hp EFI engine and initially with the 36" deck for smaller lots. The cut is second to none and I have got so many customers based on the cut outcome. I am currently looking at purchasing a larger deck as well for some larger properties and it was helpful to hear from Jason Rose that the 52" GHS had mixed reviews.....can you show me where you heard this?
    However, the ease of use and the ability to change attachments makes it a desireable machine. Also, I beleive the Walker has an aerator attachment as well.

    Just Green
     

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