Ok then, I have been reading all the threads about the walker machines and the Exmark Navigators, and with no experience with either, I would like to ask which one is better and why? I have always used ztr mowers here in north florida, and i have never really seen one around here either. BUT, i really like how they can bag and store the debris in the box. The only question i have on that is how do you empty the box? I have used baggers on ztr mowers and just empty them into the truck. Any info would be great as I am interested in purchasing one of these. Our Exmark dealer in Tallahassee is going to carry the Navigator now and im curious about them. thanx yall.