It's becoming apparent that when I waste half a day with a customer and give them a bid on several properties that the last guy to give a bid usually gets it (I'm sure he didn't disclose my bid). I think from now on unless they are sealed bids or done in a more professional manner I will have them to seek other bids first before I give them mine (I'm talking about informal, causal bids given orally) I know my work is better, here are some cutting picks of the job(s) after I lost the bid. The cuts are Grasshopper and all mowers will leave blades marks here so I don't knock them for that but there is a lot of missed grass, uneven cut area's and clippings on top. No I don't get mad or bitter loosing a bid, I'm just trying to learn how I loose some to improve my bidding in the future. I don't try to price them too low, I would rather loose them than get stuck with underpaid jobs. I need to spend more time learning the business end of lawn care and how to work the good ole boy system. I'm plenty busy so it's no big deal but this is a weak area of mine if I want to grow one day. All Grasshoppers leave the micro clumps here so this is normal for a deck that cuts clippings very fine. I am friends with the guys that got the job so this isn't a meant to be negative toward them, I'm just saying I need to work on my presentation and bidding. These guys are better than me at bidding and they should be because they are larger and are a lot more experienced on the business end of things. Unless it's a field or open lot I won't leave clumps though.