No more messing with snakes after seeing this. I thought this would be better up here instead of in the OT thread. If you have a weak stomach do not view the pictures. I guess this is what happens when you get bit by a rattle snake. http://www.rattlesnakebite.org/index.htm From the article: 13 surgeries, $700,000 worth of helicopter flights, surgeries, and hospital stays (paid by my insurance of course), and 20 months later, I am very happy with the outcome of this experience and my good fortune of getting through all this without any significant loss.