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Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by trailboss, Jun 30, 2009.
Ok Joey, thats funny.
I have to yank 15 wells that were swallowed by tree roots. Granted they are 10 yr old nightscaping well lights but they are locked in like concrete among the roots. About 5 inches sticking out of the ground. I thought about just flush cutting them with a sawzall and mulching over it thinking I will do more harm than good getting them out.
That was a joke right?
I love the effect of a par 36, but I have had to replace dozens upon dozens under warranty. when I used to install , say, 16 pars on a home, I'd plan on replacing at least 4-6 in the years time before full bulb replacement. I would build in 3 service calls into my original bid to cover service. Par bulbs tend to cost about 2x more than MR's. Mr's are more like one bulb out per install per year, many times none and maybe 2 if they run it all might long. The open par also lends itself to wire corrosion unless you really, really seal those crimp screw ends. also The leaves, roots, etc, what a pain. a fully sealed like Joey's par is great for those close uplighting tree jobs, like a jap maple or dogwood, but the bulb replacement is just too much for me to deal with.
I'd rather see an 80 degree mr-16 and let the par die.
Hmmm ive got pars out in the field that are going on 2 1/2 years...Ive replaced more Mr's Than pars actually.
Same here. I use GE on everything and my pars always last longer than the MRs do. The last par I replaced on burnout was burning for about 2.5 years all night long. I thought that was a pretty freakin tough lamp to last that long.
oh, I have pars out there that last a long time, but they are the exception, not the rule. given all the negatives, I, like many others have given up on them.
Hmmm, I wonder if the atmospheric conditions may play a role here. It seems all the guys from dryer climates dont' seem to have an issue with them and the guys from wetter more humid climates lose them often? The pars are sealed so I am unsure how things like humidity would effect them other than more condensation inside the well at night with heat from the lamp. Perhaps more corrosion on the terminals leading to premature failure. Now that I am in the midwest (more humid) I will have to keep an eye on this and see.
GE CC 20W BABs at 11-11.5 Volts will do three years easy here running dusk to midnight. Not just a few, ALL. Its a 5,000 hr lamp before voltage drop calculations.
I hate par36's.... Way to much money for 1 non led bulb