WESTERN MOUNTS

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  1. SDF250

    SDF250 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 88

    I HAVE A 99 F250 AND I AM LOOKING AT BUYING A CABLE CONTROLED 8.5 POWER ANGLE OFF AN 87 FORD .WILL I BE ABLE TO INSTALL THIS PLOW ON MY TRUCK WITHOUT PUSHING OUT THE FRONT BUMPER? ON CENTRALPARTS.COM THEY HAVE THE UNIMOUNT AND CONVENTIONAL MOUNT,WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE ? AND DOES ANYONE KNOW WHICH ONE WORKS
     
  2. GeoffDiamond

    GeoffDiamond LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Maine
    Posts: 1,651

    I am not really sure about western. However from what I have sean in the catalogs. The 96 ish and older fords used a behind the bumper mount. While the newer superduties use the Unimount only. The Frames are very different between the 97 F 250 HD, F 350 and F Superduty, and older F series. The new design on the superduties doesn't really allow for behind the bumper install.

    I think it is going to be a very hard conversion to complete. I know from a Fisher stand point, it would be almost impossible to put a convential old style mount on the new Superduties. However we could make a new minute mount into a convential mount on a Superduty.

    BTW I made a post about the difference in Ford Frames, do a search under Frames, and you can find lots of info.

    Geoff
     
  3. bluebyu62

    bluebyu62 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 14

    Hello, first of all crest is located right in abington on rockwell road off of welsh rd. They should be able to handle all of your plowing needs/questions. I believe the unimount kit will let you mount any of their plows without pushing the bumper out.
     
  4. NEAL

    NEAL LawnSite Member
    from WI
    Posts: 61

    Western uni-mount system is their newer style. The blade,pump,and lights can all be removed from the truck as one unit. All that is left on the truck is the mount. You do not need to do any thing with the bumper. The conventional mount only allows you to remove the blade. The pump and lights stay on the truck all the time. You do have to remove the bumper to put this style on and then put the bumper back and it will be spaced outward more. I dont think you can buy conventional style Western plows new anymore but im not sure. The plow from the 87 will not fit your 99.

    Neal
     
  5. Dockboy

    Dockboy LawnSite Member
    Posts: 75

    SDF250,

    I'm positive the 87 mount will not fit your truck.

    The conventional mount is for the old cable controlled plows. Pump and lights are mounted to the truck permenatly behind the bumper :(. The only thing that comes off the truck are the A frame and plow blade.

    The Unimount is the new style. Pump, lights, A frame and plow are all one assembly and remove completely from the truck. The plow is controlled electricly via a wiring harness.

    Hope that helps :)

    Greg
     
  6. GeoffDiamond

    GeoffDiamond LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Maine
    Posts: 1,651

  7. PINEISLAND1

    PINEISLAND1 LawnSite Member
    from WEST MI
    Posts: 201

    They will not even sell you the mount kits any more for the conventional cable controlled plows. Its a liability issue. When the crash testing started, they converted to the unimount, and that is all that is available. They will however sell the mounts one piece at a time, at a higher cost, as replacements for broken parts. If you bought all the parts for the mount, it would cost more than the new unimount, and you still would need to do some fabricating to put it on your newer truck.

     
  8. John DiMartino

    John DiMartino LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,555

    Thanks Geoff,interesting reading the actual Ford specs,funny how no one follows them,but at least they exist and are avaiable.Ive seen 2 F250 Xcab PSD'here,one with a 8'2" boss V and the other with an8 ft Fisher straight blade.I guess the plow installer never looked at the spec sheet either.
     
  9. GeoffDiamond

    GeoffDiamond LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Maine
    Posts: 1,651

    One thing you got to think about. If you overload your truck and warrenty is canceled does it hurt fisher? NO way. Does it Hurt Boss? NO. The only person it hurts is the guy that own the truck. Now several Ford Dealers will warrenty anything in the 3 year 36000 warrenty. Only very few will warrenty plow trucks on the extended warrenty. The extended warrenty isn't avaible for plow trucks, However guys buy trucks with out plows, and buy extended warrenties. Extended warrentys are sold by Ford, GM, and Dodge, However a third party company foots the bill for the warrenty work on extended warrenties. This third party company watches cost on individual trucks more than Ford does during their 3 year 36000 mile warrenty.

    Now Fisher will put a plow on just about every full size truck out there. They sell and install a model for the F 150 LD, which is clearly not rated to plow with. If the Federal Goverment hadn't said no plows on Ragers or S 10s, Fisher would still sell plows for them too. Truck upfitters are in the biz to make money. Most upfitters will install a plow on any truck that a Frame kit is avaible for. In the end you have to watch out for yourself.

    If you think Ford is just playing games, I am sure GM, and Dodge are as well.

    Geoff
     
  10. John DiMartino

    John DiMartino LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,555

    I know your right GM and Dodge do the same thing,I like how the Ford website has the spec sheet,I wonder if GM/Dodge has one on their site?
     

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