What do you think of these two trucks?

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by mcwlandscaping, Aug 19, 2006.

  1. ALarsh

    ALarsh LawnSite Silver Member
    from Midwest
    Posts: 2,412

    Great advice and I would have to agree with it. I sub out all my landscape/hardscape work to a local guy. He gives me a price discount, I tell the client how I work that side of my business and they agree. I take a small amount home for doing some paper work. I haven't invested a bunch of money into equipment I would use 2-5 times a year and while it depreciates.

    Good luck.
     
  2. Howie's Lawn Care

    Howie's Lawn Care LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 512

    He didn't sell himself short when he (maybe your mom or him and your mom) decided on a $1200 vacuum cleaner!:laugh:
     
  3. mcwlandscaping

    mcwlandscaping LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,164

    LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA you should have seen the look on his face when he walked in after work, saw it in the living room, and found out how much it cost!!lol, priceless facial expression!
     
  4. Howie's Lawn Care

    Howie's Lawn Care LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 512

    By the way, screw getting a dump trailer. You should get a 3/4 since it will be so much more versatile with a dump insert. Can the front end of a suburban handle a plow that well. I don't know much about plowing, but I thought they were hard on the front ends. I also remember someone on here paying like 7K for a 7' X 14' dump trailer. Why not get a $5K truck and $2.5K dump insert? It's nice to be able to throw stuff in a truck bed anyways. I like your idea of getting a 3/4 ton and dump insert, atleast in opposition to getting a suburban.
     
  5. Howie's Lawn Care

    Howie's Lawn Care LawnSite Senior Member
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    People also said to take the Suburban and sell it, but I would feel bad taking a nice solid vehicle and turning around to sell it. I wasn't expecting you to do that, but I'm just using that as a reason to get a 3/4 ton. How much do you think the size of dump trailer you want would cost? What happened to the red 2500 you posted pics of? I also think a truck would be more professional. You could put some sideboards on a dump insert with your logo.
     
  6. mcwlandscaping

    mcwlandscaping LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,164

    that red truck, i went to look at yesturday, dealer tried to hide all the frame rust with black spray paint so, that's not an option anymore. Ive always wanted the dump insert, the mention of the dump trailer was for only if i got the suburban. Ide get a Downeaster 8ft version w/ tarp roller and cab protector for $2645 installed. Howies lawn care, i totally agree with what you are saying
     
  7. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
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    Ok Scag gave his advice and now i will give mine. I am 20. I been around the block.

    In this changing world, with the rising gas prices, i would buy the smallest truck that could tow the equipment you have now most efficently! You do not need a 3/4 ton pickup and a $2600 dollor dump insert at 16!!!! Get your supplies delivered!!! I do big hardscape project. All my stuff gets delivered, down to a yard of top soil!!

    Once you spend 2600 on a insert, and take into consideration the extra time it takes to pick stuff up, the wear and tear and the truck, and your really bad gas mileage, it makes no sense to pick up your stuff.

    If i was you i'd try to find a f150 with the inline 6 engine. They are bulletproof and run for ever. Run the f150 for a couple of years doing just lawns and mulch etc. Once you get out of school buy a bigger truck and than go into hardscaping etc.


    Feel free to PM me with any questions.
    Matt
     
  8. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,067

    Oh yeah, totally forgot about the dump insert. Dude you're just trying to take it all on too fast. You'll drop $7K into a truck with a dump insert, that would be a TERRIBLE investment at this point. Most of the landscaping you'd actually be capable of doing at your age wouldn't require a dump insert and if you need materials just have them delivered on the customer's dime. For landscaping, I suggest all you try to do is plant plants, install mulch, plant some trees, maybe do a little stone work, NOTHING MORE right now. If you try to take on too much it's possible you're going to get slapped in the face by a mistake that will cost you money or you're going to realize you're in too deep. Like I said man, not trying to hack you down, you just gotta realize that you're buying all the equipment before the business, I know exactly how that goes, I used to do the same thing. Big dreamin' is fine and good, but just do yourself a favor and kick some @$$ mowing lawns and light landscaping, you gotta get off this landscaping thing it'll ruin you man, there's a lot more to it than you think.
     
  9. mcwlandscaping

    mcwlandscaping LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,164

    landscaping is where the money is, not in lawns, you need to have 120+ lawns that being a resi/comm mix before you can make any decent money off of mowing lawns. having stuff delivered is a royal pita, even when james (other LS member) does it, just because you have to arrange a time to meet and everything like that. SO much easier to do as much as possible yourself. You charge the customer your time and gas to go pick up materials and to take stuff away. I can make money off lawns right now because im too young to be a registered and insured company, but im not going to build up the business in lawns just so when im 18 and paying all the taxes and insurance i have to haul azz to get landscaping jobs to make money to pay for all that and still make actually pay myself.

    my next landscape/hardscape job ive got lined up, i could almost buy that tan truck with the amount of money involved and that's after materials cost
     
  10. ALarsh

    ALarsh LawnSite Silver Member
    from Midwest
    Posts: 2,412

    I think that is where you are not seeing the light. Lawns are a weekly income, you will have work to do every week, now and in 3 months. Landscaping isn't. You can make some good money landscaping, but you have to have the expensive equipment to really make out like a bandit (backhoes, large dump trucks, etc etc).

    Here is a quote from justmowit about landscaping vs. mowing income:
    Gross, money is there. Net, I don't know.......
     

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