What do you think of this 6 step program?

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by Mr.turfguy, Mar 15, 2005.

  1. Mr.turfguy

    Mr.turfguy LawnSite Member
    Posts: 19

    App 1 Dimension + 24-5-11
    App 2 18-24-12 + blanket Trimec plus
    App 3 16-4-8 spot spray SpeedZone
    App 4 Lime + spot spray SpeedZone
    App 5 24-8-15 + spot spray Trimec
    App 6 10-20-20 + spot spray Trimec

    This is zone 7, mostly tall fescue
    In this area Lime is needed yearly

    Basic program $53 per app for 10k
    $318 total yearly for customer-- cost of materials $98.00

    Any comments good or bad are welcomed.

    Thanks,T
     
  2. SodKing

    SodKing LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,648

    Where is the insect/grub control?
     
  3. ThreeWide

    ThreeWide LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,116

    I would swap App 2 and App 5. App 2 is a starter analysis with lots of phosphorus. You should be applying that in September just before most Fescue lawns are overseeded. The phosphorus could be better utilized at that time.

    App 6 might also be better suited for the App 3 spot. You are providing higher potassium, which is needed in May-June to prepare the turf for the Summer heat stress. I might then modify the new App 6 to a higher N analysis for Fall.
     
  4. Mr.turfguy

    Mr.turfguy LawnSite Member
    Posts: 19

    How is this ? *insect or fungus control, aeration + seeding are extra

    App 1 Dimension + 24-5-11 (Feb-Mar)
    App 2 24-8-15 + blanket Trimec plus (Apr-May)
    App 3 10-20-20+ spot spray SpeedZone (June-July)
    App 4 Lime + spot spray SpeedZone (Aug-Sep)
    App 5 18-24-12 + spot spray Trimec (Sep-Oct)
    App 6 24-8-15 + spot spray Trimec (Nov-Dec)

    This is zone 7, mostly tall fescue
    In this area Lime is needed yearly

    Basic program $53 per app for 10k
    $318 total yearly for customer-- cost of materials $98.00

    Any comments good or bad are welcomed.

    Thanks,T

    Are the material costs inline?
     
  5. Williams Services

    Williams Services LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 269

    We have a lot of pines and oaks around here, so the consensus is that the soil is very acidic. When I checked it out with the extension office, the median pH was around 6-6.5 ... get a soil test for specific requirements.

    Gave an estimate to another guy that had very, very high levels of P in his soil and the pH was too high for the plants (azaleas, gardenias, and centipede) ... yet some 'master gardener' was telling him to lime his azaleas ... these people are great. The St. Aug. looked great!
     
  6. Mr.turfguy

    Mr.turfguy LawnSite Member
    Posts: 19

    I should probably include protection from grubs and not let them become a problem. This area is bad for grubs. Maybe Merit in app 3?

    The price per app probably shoud be around $ 56.
     
  7. turfsurfer

    turfsurfer LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 364

    If your costs are that high, I would raise prices some. Either you're not figuring cost of something correctly or your product is pretty costly and maybe could be lowered with some shopping around. Maybe just regional differences though. Your product cost is greater than 30% of revenue.
     
  8. SodKing

    SodKing LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,648

    Your costs are inline. An additional $56 for the merit, on top of the application price , would be inline with the rest of us.

    Make sure you are following the label with respect to the amount of product per acre llimitations on Three way/per year.
     
  9. Enviro Green

    Enviro Green LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 324

    Why so much P? You will be seeing a lot of germination, not just grass but other weeds as well with those two apps of starter fert.
     
  10. Enviro Green

    Enviro Green LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 324

    Also, depending on season and where you are but if you apply only one app of pre and in feb to march, it will be gone so you better add Drive 75 to your list somewhere and then price that.

    One app of pre may not be enough.

    EG
     

Share This Page