in other words. they pay their employees less. laughs. i think technology has gone beyond this for alot of instances. people do not know how to use it tho. most people in this industry input every single invoice they make manually. in fact. quickbooks is capable of doing 40 hrs of work in mere minutes. but this depends on alot of factors. i do mostly routine work. weekly mowings. so its easy for me to write an invoice for the one or two landscapes i do. and then all the rest of it jsut import an excel file and be done with it. hours of work done in a minute or so. Thanks for the info tho. i learned a bit.