What engines will switch out pretty straight with a Kawasaki 19H.P. FH580V Kai

Discussion in 'Mechanic and Repair' started by Dunn's, Nov 13, 2009.

  1. Dunn's

    Dunn's LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Hey we need to pull the engine off our 1 1/2 year old Exmark TTHP and switch it out with something. We where thinking a Kohler Command 18H.P. our a briggs and stratton Vangard 20 H.P. do you all know of any engines other then these thyat will switch out pretty good.

    Or do you know any about these engines and how they will switch out?

    Thanks
     
  2. clipperslawnservice

    clipperslawnservice LawnSite Member
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    1 1/2 years,what happend?
     
  3. Restrorob

    Restrorob LawnSite Fanatic
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    Dunn,


    Most engines within the same hp size will have the same mounting bolt pattern, Things to look for is crankshaft out-put diameter and length.

    Also throttle/choke controls, Both on one cable or separate or in a location on the replacement engine that the original cable(s) will reach . Most engines have a different style wire harness plug connector, Use short jumper wires made up with the correct terminals on each end to adapt a different engine. This prevents both unit and engine harness butchering should you want to return to a original unit/engine configuration.
     
  4. East Coast Lawn Choppers

    East Coast Lawn Choppers LawnSite Member
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    What happened to the engine ? we usually don't do anything but change oil in them for atleast 1000 hours. Even then just freshen them up new rings seals and valve job and they go for another 1000
     
  5. Dunn's

    Dunn's LawnSite Bronze Member
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    which time

    it has been in the shop atleast 12 times since owning it

    blade engagement twice, almost every different bolt that could fall off has.

    blades used to come flying off for no reason, even though they swore nothing was wrong with them, eventually we went to a different dealer and they changed the blade bolts out to a different kind and now they have never came off once, even though they say that isn't the reason, Of course it was operatot problems, either not use impact wrench or becuase we where using one, depending on which worker we got and what one we told them we where using to put them on.

    had the head gaskets replaced multiple times, rings,valves I believe as well.

    This time is was running fine all the sudden it started shaking the employee disengaged the blades yelled and waved his hands at me and as I was walking over total time of about 10-15 seconds maybe atmost. And then right as I was getting their bang SO I shut it off and wouldn't you know their is a small pen sized whole in the side of the engine block just above and to the right of the oil filter.

    So there you have it a $7,000 Dollar paper weight made by a company who does not stand behind their product. Or should I say two companies Exmark and Kawasaki
     
  6. Dunn's

    Dunn's LawnSite Bronze Member
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  7. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
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    I hate to say it but it sounds like a low oil problem.
    Do you check the oil frequently, with the dipstick merely resting on the closure?
    If you twist it in, you'll get a wrong reading (too low).
    Just thought I'd mention this.

    Anyhow...

    Exmark Turf Tracer HP
    Original Engine: Kawasaki FH500V-BS06

    This engine has a 1"x3-5/32" Shaft on it and is recoil start without an electric clutch.

    I believe THIS will fit (but read below):
    http://cgi.ebay.com/KOHLER-ENGINE-1...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item53dd86b822

    This particular engine is on one of my Toro 48" fixed decks, they're basically
    the same mower as yours, however some minor modification was required
    in the throttle and connections department...
    Also I have had some mechanical issues with it, thou nothing requiring inner workings, let's see...
    The choke butterfly valve required "adjusting," twice...
    The muffler had a screw missing from one of the brackets, later it cracked and had to be welded, then replaced.
    A valve lifter came off during break-in, simply tightening this back down fixed it, but it was a bit un-nerving.

    They are not trouble free, but I have three of this particular model and so long they're taken care of, they run for a long time.
    You can NOT run these low on oil!

    Last but not least there is NO warranty on this engine, enough said.

    Peace out
     
  8. Steve's Used Iron

    Steve's Used Iron LawnSite Member
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    Another think i love about KAW is that you try and call them for TECH ADVICE ...NO they will not even talk to you. I wish these machines came with a HONDA or at least another option.
     
  9. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
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    On another note, any of the following should work:
    CV15T 41624, 41629 and 41582

    I hear you, Kohler's the same way, they will NOT cover their engines even an hour after it was installed.
    Yes sir, when that valve came loose NOBODY would touch it, the engine had ran maybe 2 hours, man it still SMELLED new ...
    I mean come on, I don't carry this "new engine smell" stuff in a can so I can spray off a 10-year old engine, you know?
    It didn't have a scratch on it, I never even "ran" the mower proper so no grass or dirt, all right maybe a fingerprint, geez.
    But that's not the worst part, I could probably tolerate that...

    If it were not for the fact that the sellers of these engines AND the Kohler web site ALL claim their engines are covered
    by such-and-such unconditional and great grandiose manufacturing warranty, etc, etc, etc...
    That's what pisses me off, their big bad claims...

    Now...
    I can order an engine local AND they will cover it.
    But it also costs well in excess of a thousand dollars, like 1300-1500 bucks.

    I'm guessing even the distributors don't get no satisfaction, they just charge us the price of two engines?
    Why I said, NO warranty...
     
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2009
  10. Dunn's

    Dunn's LawnSite Bronze Member
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    thanks for the ideas Top but I don't think we will be putting a 15 horsepower on this mower especially for that exact same price I can get a new Vangard 20 H.P. Electric start.

    I know I know everyone hates briggs.

    Well I hate Kawasaki and Exmark, others love them so to each their own I guess.
     

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