What improvements would you like to see- Transformers

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by pete scalia, Oct 10, 2007.

  1. pete scalia

    pete scalia LawnSite Senior Member
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    Let's brain storm some ideas for our own benefit and the benefit of the manufacturers that read this board. Not on specific brands but what improvements would you like to see made to transformers that will improve the usability and performance and make your life a bit easier.
     
  2. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    more room below the terminal boards (drop downs are a pain in the butt once you have a conduit or 2 in place.

    Hour meters

    Cut to lenght power cords

    Dual 1 1/4" knock outs on larger transformers.

    Slightly wider to accept digital time clocks without having to worry if your cord is going to touch the breakers

    And while we are dreaming how bout a LCD inside displaying input voltage and amperage lol
     
  3. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
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    Billy,

    All great ideas! The power cord thing is tuff becuase UL restricts us on power cord lengths. Knockouts going to 1 1/4", there is some potential there, our new knockouts go to 1".

    I LOVE the LCD idea, problem w/ LCD is they do not hold up with heat, it would have to be a some sort of a digital read out but I love that idea. So many people do not use amp probes and they should!!

    Hour meters, potential

    As far as wiring room, I think you should check out the I Force transformer we make, and if you havent used it yet you got to try it out atleast once. You owe it to yourself to see how easy this thing is wired it!!

    Joey D.
     
  4. NightLightingFX

    NightLightingFX LawnSite Senior Member
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    My biggest complaint about the multi tap transformers is that sometimes I get into a pickle if I have a long run and I am using one of the higher taps. The higher taps will increase by 2's. I end up getting either too low of voltage to my hub or too high of voltage. Adding more wire for a voltage drop is a real pain in the ***. Do you guys have any good suggestions for this problem. I have gone to Kitchlers contractor series transformers - Terradek still has a lot of them in stock. I have also opened the transformers and created an in between tap - Some transformers have unconnected wires for other taps levels unconnected. But that is still a pain.
    ~Ned
    www.nightlightingfx.com
     
  5. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
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    It is tuff. For us it comes down to room on the coil. We do however and will make you custom units. We have customers that want taps 12-20 w/o skipping 17 and 19. We can do it!! We make a lot of custom units for people becuase we make all of our units in house here in CA.
     
  6. NightLightingFX

    NightLightingFX LawnSite Senior Member
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    It is hard to know what tap you need until you are hooking it up.
    ~Ned
     
  7. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
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    It is but you can usually determine if you are going to need the 22v tap or not. If you know you definitly wont need the 22v then we can add a 17v.
     
  8. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    i know Joey was going to bring up the I force lol... I am planning on using some of them on a project soon but the freakin contractor is like 2 years behind on building this place. I am going to have to use em here because they mounted my sockets in a tight area and no way and i going to pull a houdini and fit my butt behind an ac unit to see what i am doing. I figure I will be able to wire it all up since I am going to have to use flex conduit about 3 ft behind the ac... then hang it in place once all is said and done.
     
  9. pete scalia

    pete scalia LawnSite Senior Member
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    more room below the terminal boards (drop downs are a pain in the butt once you have a conduit or 2 in place. totally agreed

    Hour meters- Can you explain your reasoning? I can see if you always change all lamps together as a group otherwise what's the diff?

    Cut to lenght power cords- This one I'm trying to understand the value of. Can't you cut any cord wherever you want and wire a 3 prong plug to the end already?

    Dual 1 1/4" knock outs on larger transformers. Agreed

    Slightly wider to accept digital time clocks without having to worry if your cord is going to touch the breakers Agreed

    And while we are dreaming how bout a LCD inside displaying input voltage and amperage lol- LCD screens are expensive how bout satellite tv too?:waving:
     
  10. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Maybe LCD was the wrong term... How about one of thoes Red LED read out things that just show numbers or s a screen like a calculator just displaying the numbers.
     

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