I've been trying to decide what skid loader to buy for my first machine. I've done some research and they both have their ups and downs. The deere is $13,500 with 270 hrs unknown year and the 2002 Thomas Pro Tuff 1700 has about 240 hrs is $12k. I need a good machine under $15k with good balls. I use a Mustang 2050 now, it's ok for what i need it for.