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Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing Equipment' started by leftyjoe, Jun 21, 2013.

  1. LandFakers

    LandFakers LawnSite Fanatic
    from CT
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    It says right on that pdf that the 29efi is a 10.5 mph machine, and most models are 12mph. You may have thought you paid for a 12 mph machine, but you bought the wrong motor. This doesnt mean its right but if you have an email from a rep saying it will only go 10.5, then how is that scags fault? They have a turf tiger machine that will do 12,you just need the larger motors, so they put that in their brochure to make things look good. Its not a lie, you were just mis-informed and didnt read the fine print. I truly think you're SOL here.
     
  2. leftyjoe

    leftyjoe LawnSite Member
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    I have the 2013 brochure sitting in front of me now that says "up to 12 mph forward speed on most units; 10.5 mph foward ground speed on 25CH-lp,27CHand 750KA models; 5mph reverse.
     
  3. A little turn of the wrench and it will go 12 or more.
     
  4. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Michigan
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    That's the one you bought.
     
  5. leftyjoe

    leftyjoe LawnSite Member
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    I bought the 29ch.
     
  6. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
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    Ground Speed:
    Up to 12mph forward, 5 mph reverse (most models)
    Up to 10.5mph forward, 5mph reverse (27CH, 29EFI & 750KA models)


    I sure would have lost money on this one, the Scag TT has always been listed as a 12 mph machine. I have no idea why they would print this, they've got to have the same pumps and wheel motors, and that with tire size is what produces speed. This is totally confusing, but we will find out their reason for this come Monday.

    Most mowers never run their advertised speed, they are always slower from all I've checked.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2013
  7. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Michigan
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    Obviously you're right. My bad. I was thinking you had said LQ for some reason but I went back and saw where you said EFI.

    The brochure I have also says 10.5 mph for the 29 EFI as did that PDF.


    I've read for several years that there are two different rated speeds for the TT, so I'm not sure where puppy got that they have always been advertised as 12 mph.
     
  8. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
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    How do they get the different numbers while using the same pumps, wheel motors, and tires, that's really confusing to many. Basically all the advertisement I've seen for TT states a 12 mph machine, that's a little deceiving to advertise 12 mph and spec different engines at different speeds. The information below states 29 hp and above is a 12 mph machine, according to the new literature that has changed.

    2011 TT specs...

    Up to 12 mph (diesel, and 29 hp & larger gas models) or 10.5 mph (27 hp models) forward speeds and 5 mph reverse speeds keep productivity at a maximum.

    2010 TT specs...

    Ground Speed: 12mph forward, 5 mph reverse (29hp+ gas and Kubota diesel models)
    11mph forward, 5 mph reverse (CAT diesel model)
    10mph forward, 5mph reverse (27hp models)
     
  9. djagusch

    djagusch LawnSite Platinum Member
    from MN
    Posts: 4,203

    In 2011 they had a kawi 29dfi but not the kohler 29hp.

    Their advertisement is correct for the model yr/engine options.

    No decieving going on if you read/think about.

    Since nobody sound like they know how they change the speed difference look at the parts diagram. In past years they use different pulley sizes to make the pumps spin different rpm's. My guess this is due to engine torque curves.

    Its really straight forward if it is researched/thought out. The lit has always had this different speeds for engines. Back in 2002 they were rated 10 mph and only had 10cc pumps.
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  10. djagusch

    djagusch LawnSite Platinum Member
    from MN
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    How is it Scag's fault?
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