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What would you bid per man hour?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Lawnworks, Dec 8, 2004.

  1. Lawnworks

    Lawnworks LawnSite Fanatic
    from usa
    Posts: 5,407

    What would you bid per man hour on a huge property. Lets say it is an average of 800 man hours per month for 12 months out of the year. Basically one crew of 4-6 people services a property 5 days a week. The job is 90% mowing. What would you charge per man hour? Would you do it for less than your regular rate?
  2. Green Care

    Green Care LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 530

    I wish I can help you but I don't bid man hour on mowing only on cleanups and shrubs.
  3. Lawnworks

    Lawnworks LawnSite Fanatic
    from usa
    Posts: 5,407

    What would be a competitive profit percentage? 20-30%?
  4. Kelly's Landscaping

    Kelly's Landscaping LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,353

    Id like 28-30 an hour for something that big but as low as that is the majors will come in for 20 and get the job.
  5. Drew Gemma

    Drew Gemma LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,510

    I would figure out all cost for the year roughly figure high. Then add a percent of error to that number. Then mark it up accordinly to achieve the profit margin you want.
  6. Lawnworks

    Lawnworks LawnSite Fanatic
    from usa
    Posts: 5,407

    Yeah I am thinking Brickman will probably bid pretty low. They are some bastards.
  7. YardPro

    YardPro LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,563

    this is where you MUST know your per hour operating costs.

    yes i would most definately charge less than full rate. You can bet the other bidders will as well.

    since this will take an entire crew it will only add to the bottom line. It will not be pulling guys of more profitable work.

    figure your per hour operating costs, then add your profit %
    i'd do 20%

    what we would do also is add at least 10% to the actual hours you think it will take.

    unless you are bidding "per hour" and will recover any time you had not accounted for.

    it's this exact scenerio that reinforces why it is so important to know your ourly operating costs, cuase you can bet that if any big boys are biddibg it, they know thiers.
  8. Albemarle Lawn

    Albemarle Lawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,544

    90% mowing: 720 hrs @ $60 = $43,200 monthly * 12 = $518,400
    10 % manual/trimmer = 80 hrs @ $32 = $2,560 * 12 = $30,720

    Total, annual = $549,120.00

    Cheaper depending how bad you want it, how much you like pain, etc.


    Costs, 5 employees full time including comp, etc = $125,000
    Costs, manager, full time including comp, etc = $45,000
    Costs, mower, 8,640 hrs @$18 = $155,520
    Costs, trucks, 2, for 1 year = $28,000
    Costs, overhead, lease, etc $22,000
    Costs, other, insuance, etc. $40,000

    Total: $415,520

    Profit: $110,000 You can price between $440,000- $600,000

    Major companies will probably still underbid. Their survival depends on it. There is no future in trying to run a large operation, just red tape, governmental oversight BS, and employee headaches.

    Run a small, profitable business and pull profits out.
  9. YardPro

    YardPro LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,563

    you'll never get the bid with that labor rate.

    there is NO travel time at this site. there are no conveniencestore breaks, etc.

    On this size job you should be basing it on a tigher margin.

    also how important is the quality of the work?
  10. Randy Scott

    Randy Scott LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,915

    No brainer, $60 a man hour. That's what EEEEEEEVERYBODY on this site says to bid at. Shucks, some even gross $70 to $80 an hour.

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