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What zt to buy?

Discussion in 'Homeowner Assistance Forum' started by John in NH, Apr 4, 2001.

  1. John in NH

    John in NH LawnSite Member
    Posts: 1

    I have about 3 1/2 acres of lawn to mow with some small hills and obstackles. I have been looking at the zero turn riders, and don't want to spend more than $5000.00. With the avalable dealers in the area, I have narowed it down to the 50" Simplicity, the 52" toro (new model) and the 54" cub cadet. Which mower is the best?
  2. Mr.Ziffel

    Mr.Ziffel LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 291

    What tastes best, an apple or an orange? Only you can tell yourself the answer to this. You need to look closely, test drive and talk to the dealer and decide what you prefer. I'd say it will come down to how you feel about your dealer support along with how the mower looks and feels to you. Make sure you actually drive and preferably cut with each mower. If you insist, your dealer should be able to find somewhere to cut--it makes a difference! In general from what I've read here, I'm assuming that the order of preference for most, as for me, would be Toro, Simplicity, Cub [MTD which is not highly thought of on this forum]. You're on the right track for a good mower by looking at the Z's - they will outperform a belly mount mower all day. Will
  3. Catcher

    Catcher LawnSite Member
    Posts: 166

    I'd agree with Mr. Ziffel (well said) and would just like to add that there is always the possibility of picking up a good used unit from a commercial outfit. I also looked at the Toro, Simplicity etc., compared to the commercial units these things look like toys. Take a look at materials and craftsmanship, for example Toro features a (what I perceived as) flimsy stamped out mowerdeck whereas other brands offer a heavy gauge fabricated deck. Same goes for cooling units of hydraulic and motor units, size and location matter there.
    Just take a good look at each prospective unit and note your likes/ dislikes.
    Good Luck
  4. summitgroundskeeping

    summitgroundskeeping LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 410

    I hate Cub Cadets. I have just had bad experiences personally and so have everyone I know. But seriously, I think the Simplicity is your best bet of thoes choices, because I hate Cubs and Toros aren't as good as they used to be(toros were awsome a few years ago). I agree with Mr. Ziffel, only you can decide what is best for your application.
  5. awm

    awm LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,354

    my vote would be the 52 toro.if you are willing to put 5 grand in it you really ought to look around a lot.
    i think eric mentioned a dixie chopper for something in that range.
  6. edward hedrick

    edward hedrick LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 871

    For the Home owner take a look at The Derby 54 Its the
    combination of the IS 3000 by Ferris and the 54 Deck from
    Simplicity. Simplicity owns Ferris. Very comfortable to ride
    comes with 23 hp Kohler the Toro Time cuttr Z has a 17 hp
    single the V twin put out more power. Find a used Scag sthm
    is 60 " is easier to use on hills and around stuff. A good
    used one should be around 4-5 K.

  7. Deron

    Deron LawnSite Member
    Posts: 8

    The Cub Cadet commercial has added counterweights because it wasn't designed well enough and properly balanced. The dealer I spoke to indicated that this was an addition to the design in year 2. (the all yellow ones were year one, the black ones labeled "cub cadet commercial" are year 2) It concerned me enough that I decided to look elsewhere. If you read the commercial message board, they will tell you to stay far away from the Cub. Since I don't own a Cub Cadet commercial I can't say one way or another, but the guys who do it for a living are pretty much unanimous on this point.
  8. trimmer

    trimmer LawnSite Senior Member
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  9. JMcGuire

    JMcGuire LawnSite Member
    Posts: 18

    I love it, I am an Emark fan but they are just too expensive, know what I mean. It is swift cuts well, and I will probably buy a bagger when they come out. If you want a great ZTR is is a good mower to use, also the undercarriage spray works really well..

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  10. curlawngreen

    curlawngreen Banned
    Posts: 309

    Do a search on a guy named Doc. This was beat to death.

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