Whats a better 21" Commercial Honda or Toro

Discussion in 'Industry Surveys & Polls' started by greenscapes inc., Dec 11, 2006.

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Honda or Toro

  1. Honda Commercial 21"

    70 vote(s)
    44.6%
  2. Toro Commercial 21"

    87 vote(s)
    55.4%
  1. greenscapes inc.

    greenscapes inc. LawnSite Member
    from Utah
    Posts: 137

    I have been using the honda hrc 216 walkbehind's and they have been pretty good mowers. I had some problems with the drive shafts but other than that they have been pretty good. Next year I need to buy a couple new ones and I have been debating on trying the toro's. What do you guys think that have used both?? Thanks
     
  2. Picture Perfect Landscape

    Picture Perfect Landscape LawnSite Member
    Posts: 176

    Technically the toro with the honda motor is pretty much the same thing. Similar deck design and material and similar cost, with almost an identical motor.

    That being said I have have 2 honda commericals and a snapper. I love the hondas. Even the one thats 10 years old.
     
  3. LLM Ann Arbor

    LLM Ann Arbor LawnSite Member
    Posts: 35

    Snapper Hi Vac.
     
  4. J&R Landscaping

    J&R Landscaping LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 5,096

    I have a 21" snapper commercial and dont like it all that much. I will probably be getting a toro next season.
     
  5. pclawncare

    pclawncare LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 991

    Snappers new 21" commercials are no good. Not enough power or bagging ability. The side discarge tube for bagging alwase gets plugged id prefer my john deere jx 85 any day
     
  6. BobcatBoy06

    BobcatBoy06 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 183

    We have toro, honda, and lawn boy all are commerical. We have toros that are both 2 cycle and 4 stroke. I'd have to say it depends on the application that you are using the mower for. I'd probally take the toro over the honda, I just like how it feels better. The honda does have the blade brake clutch which really isn't a big deal unless you are doing alot of bagging.If all you want to do it mulching with the mower, I think the honda may do alittle better, being that it has two blades its just a better set up for mulching. Sometimes it tends to bag better, being as it can chop the blades finer. Sometimes the motor on the honda feels like it is underpowered, and i'm not really a fan of the hande bar set up it pretty much requires that you use both hands. The toros have already proven themselves over the years, they will never let you down no matter what you are doing.
     
  7. S man

    S man LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,562


    This is interesting. I have a toro model 22176 with the kawasaki that I have had this year. At first I didn't like it. It cut bad and didn't have enough power. I switched to the gator blade and had the dealer up my rpms. Now this thing is awsome. The let downs are that the deck when cutting wet grass and or weeds will get very clogged up with grass that will have to be taken out by hand in order for it to cut. Also the wheels and the adjusters are quirky. The 2006 new adjuster tabs break VERY EASY. The drive rear wheels wobble just a little but seem really tight. All in all it is a nice mower and cuts nice. Although bagging with it is good as far as picking up the grass, it is a pain to take off and if clogged. But that's not a big deal.
    With that said,
    I would like to try a honda and see which is better. I think over all the toro will win because of it's lighter design and simple set up. Nothing complicated. But the honda has more goodies and will bag easier and better most likely.
    The honda does have plenty of power, it just needs the rpms adjusted to 3600 like the manual says.
     
  8. lawnpro724

    lawnpro724 LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,201

    Toro and Honda are both good mower and I have used each one of them at different times in the last 17yrs. I would have to give the edge to toro, they will go on and on like the energizer bunny, the Honda has more perks like hydro 21" cut commercial model which I used to own years ago but Toro mowers just wont die. If you looking for a mower you can beat to death and will give you a good cut and dependable service for years to come then go with Toro Proline
     
  9. S man

    S man LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,562

    Mainly because they are simple. No bbc and no drive shaft. Even though there is a belt, it lasts and doesn't need to be replaced as much as cheaper s/p units. Also much easier than a drive shaft for repair. I love my toro. I'm just trying to tweak some issues with mulching right now.
     
  10. lawnpro724

    lawnpro724 LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,201

    You use Toro Proline 21"? Get your facts straight Toro proline mowers come with BBC. Certain models in the commercial line don't have it but those are the entry level commercial models. All of mine do.
     

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