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What's everyone using to contrl weeds in St. Augustine here in Florida?

Discussion in 'Florida Lawn Care Forum' started by abrightday, Feb 1, 2011.

  1. abrightday

    abrightday LawnSite Member
    Posts: 142

    So spring is rapidly approaching,,chinch are rearing their heads, we're supposed to hit 80 today in Central Florida. What are you using to control those various weeds out there?
    We are currently using Atrazine, restricted use, must log treatments, with a low rate of eliminate D from lesco, sometimes adding basagran, if there is a sedge problem,,but when the temps go above that 85 degree mark, what will you be using,,manor, celsius? inquiring minds want to know,,results? ect. Thanks for your participation.
  2. Landscape Poet

    Landscape Poet LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,638

    Albright - not sure that my answer as to what I use on my own lawn is what you are looking for but I currently use manor for the broadleaf weeds and dismiss is what I had used for any sedge issues, but I do not think I am going to use it anymore because I had a bad issue with it mixed at the recommended strength for SA. Those two take care of the majority of issues that I have in my lawn.
  3. abrightday

    abrightday LawnSite Member
    Posts: 142

    Sedgehammer, basagran both work great, never used dimiss,,
  4. Landscape Poet

    Landscape Poet LawnSite Gold Member
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    Sedgehammer would of been the way I went if I had known about it at the time. It would of been much more cost effective for me since there is not profit for me in my own lawn.
    I went with the Dismiss as a result and I do not recall what it cost at the time but it was a lot. When I went with the recommended rate for SA on the label, knocked the hell of of the sedge that was in the little area of my lawn. The issue is that since it also controls broadleaf weeds and I had some mixed up I thought I would just spray the whole lawn. Big mistake. The lawn was brown from stressed. I thought I had killed my lawn.

    I have used it a couple times since then - but at a much lower rate. And it does do a great job killing sedge. Its results are visable in 24 hours...but I will be moving on to sedge hammer when I finally get through this bottle.
  5. olive123

    olive123 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 500

    be careful with manor, the researchers at UF have found oak deaths releated to its use. Came about in a seminar in Miami
  6. gregory

    gregory LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,068

    i use manor never had any problems with my oaks. is there anything on the net that i can read?
  7. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
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    Everyone who has any had traditional Education in Turf (College Classes etc) has had the test question about either dying trees or shrubs next to turf and ask to figure out why.

    Hello what is MSME (Manor) other than a broad Leaf killer the same as Atrazine etc etc. I am sure MSME has certain plants it effects more than others. But in general we as professional applicators should already be a ware of off target application UNDER GROUND as well as Drift.

    Actually this post should be manitory reading for those without Licenses. Maybe then they might under stand why is takes 3 year work experience etc to be a Legal applicator here in Florida.
  8. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 9,064

    Sulfonylurea herbicides will move downward in sandy soils. They are also more mobile and persistent in alkaline soils. Metsulfuron methyl(MSME, Manor, Blade) is one of the best tree killers I know of. It is marketed as Escort XP to railroads and utility ROWs to control trees. I occasionally get some grief from clients because I will not spray a lawn when heavy rain is expected within a week. That is much better than the hassles from killing their trees and their neighbor's trees because something I sprayed has washed down into the root zone.
  9. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
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    Escort XP is sold in 16 oz bottles for $ 140 while Manor/Mansion is sold by Lesco JDL for $ 100 an Oz. Go figure they both are made in the same vat and just labelled different. However Don't get caught using Escort XP on a Residential lawn.
  10. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
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    Not worth it for me to do that. I cost what I do so there is no need for me to use the low priced ag labeled AI on lawns. BTW, there is Calisto(Tenacity) in my state for use by the seed corn farmers. I will probably never see Tenacity in my state. Is it worth it for me to buy Calisto and use it on my st augustine and centipede lawns. No.

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