When are guys done work

Discussion in 'General Industry Discussions' started by ponyboy, Dec 23, 2012.

  1. yardguy28

    yardguy28 LawnSite Platinum Member
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    by law it doesn't matter what they prefer to pay.

    I'm really surprised there are people who would accept and put up with a job that does not pay you your full earnings.

    if your on the clock and or in company vehicles you have to get paid by law.
     
  2. whiffyspark

    whiffyspark LawnSite Fanatic
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    That's what I've told them. I won't clock out until I'm going home. We have 15-20 crews going out all season

    Also, I believe brickman got in a lot of trouble for it as well
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  3. Toro 455

    Toro 455 LawnSite Member
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  4. jrs.landscaping

    jrs.landscaping LawnSite Silver Member
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  5. GreenI.A.

    GreenI.A. LawnSite Silver Member
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    another thing my attorney has advised me. A few of my guys take trucks home at night. For example, my irrigation tech and lead fert tech. The usually go straight to the first account of the day or supply house and at the end of the day they often do not go back to the shop. What we do to cover for this is, they get paid for the windshild time that they would have from the shop to the first shop, and from the last shop back to the shop. So if they go to the supply house which is 45 minutes from the shop first thing in the am, they get paid 45 minutes, but my irrigation tech lives only 15 minutes from the supply house, so he actually makes out and gets paid for an extra 30 minutes. At the same time, the last account of the day may be 15 minutes from the shop, but he may live 60 minutes away. He gets paid for the 15 minutes only.
     
  6. GreenI.A.

    GreenI.A. LawnSite Silver Member
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    No they're not right to work states
     
  7. CL&T

    CL&T LawnSite Senior Member
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    New York IS a right to work state as I believe Ma is also. I don't know what it has to do with the conversation. All it means is that if you go to work for a union company you can opt out of joining the union. You would get the same pay either way. I have never seen anybody stupid enough to do that and forgo the benefits unless the company went union after they were there and they were management suck ups.
     
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  8. weeze

    weeze LawnSite Fanatic
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    maybe this is why guys on here can't keep good employees working for them? lol
     
  9. Patriot Services

    Patriot Services LawnSite Fanatic
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    Driving your vehicles back to your shop is work and must be paid at their regular rate or ot if over 40 hours. Its FEDERAL labor law, regardless of what state your in. Are these illegals that you hired and are holding that over their heads? No American with an ounce of common sense would put up with that. Our timeclock is in the shop. That's where the pay starts and stops. This topic comes up several times a year and still some guys don't get it.
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  10. CL&T

    CL&T LawnSite Senior Member
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    Legal or illegal, they have the same rights when it comes to pay. There are immigrant advocate groups that have laywers who will take their complaint and rake you over the coals with the labor laws and the IRS.
     

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